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Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by quantified on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @01:16AM (#43009571)
So the younger the effort, the less relevant/useful they are? That's an argument, but not compelling. Pretty much every startup is pointless according to that logic.
Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by slt2021 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @01:24AM (#43009620)
CFPB has no track record of materially improving people's lives

Just ask yourself: How other countries manage to survive without the CFPB, and live just fine ?????

Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by quantified on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @01:52AM (#43009768)
Huh. Other countries survive just fine. I thought America was to be great, though.

CFPB tends to go after those who rip off the less affluent. Not a HN constituency.

We got along great for almost 200 years without the DEA and they have a much larger budget. Hasn't materially improved anyone's life, or do you know someone who was better off from their action? Go after them first.

Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by slt2021 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @02:06AM (#43009855)
>>We got along great for almost 200 years without the DEA and they have a much larger budget. Hasn't materially improved anyone's life, or do you know someone who was better off from their action? Go after them first.

it is a valid question how DEA was unable to prevent opioid epidemic by Sackler family, and the current fentanyl epidemic, and I'm sure the effectiveness question will be raised.

while we are discussing DEA, I wanted to highlight CIA whistleblower Kiriakou's interview ( https://youtu.be/yaoTdbGbU1c?t=187 )

Afghanistan was net food exporter, but shortly after USA occupation, Afghanistan produces 93% of world's heroine, and DoD encouraged opium production because heroine was exported to geopolitical adversaries (Russia and Iran).

and DEA even shut down investigation by the CIA.

Very big questions are starting to arise

Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by dqv on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @01:28AM (#43009648)
Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by slt2021 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @01:33AM (#43009673)
that specific part, file a complaint and get escalated to company's management:

1. could be automated completely, removing the need for human cost in the process

2. should be created for all other industries as well, not only finance consumers

Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by dqv on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @01:52AM (#43009762)
> 1. could be automated completely, removing the need for human cost in the process

Automation fails. A lot. There will always be a need for humans to address at least some of these cases.

> 2. should be created for all other industries as well, not only finance consumers

Adding to the list of things the government doesn't do (removal of the CFPB without an alternative) doesn't achieve this.

The FTC still directs consumers to the CFPB. Might want to call Russ and let him know.

Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by slt2021 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @02:09AM (#43009878)
there is no reason to maintain expensive staff to manually review customer complaints in the age of AI and LLMs.

Just fire 90% of these thousands of lawyers with 500k salaries and replace remaining 10% with engineers who will create a system on autopilot.

There is really no valid argument against materially improving government efficiency

Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by Timon3 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @02:51AM (#43010139)
It's terrifying that people really think LLMs are ready for such important tasks, and even moreso that they're willing to sacrifice the livelihoods of others to do so.
Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by technol0gic on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @03:44AM (#43010462)
they aren't, this person just simply wants them to be.

and if you say anything to the contrary about LLMs not being fully baked enough for this undertaking, they will immediately frame it like you're against the entire endeavor. they hate nuance.

Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by slt2021 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @03:06AM (#43010231)
it is terrifying you think it is OK to employ thousands of expensive bureacrats only to manually forward customer complaints to [email protected], in a nation with 330+ mln people
Re:CFPB's 1,700 employees told to "not perform any work" by Timon3 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @05:12AM (#43011000)
That is of course not all that they do, but you know that.