Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by whynotminot on Monday February 10, 2025 @11:01PM
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He said “partly” — seems reasonable that throwing nazi salutes around might have a partial impact on declining sales?
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Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by penjelly on Monday February 10, 2025 @11:17PM
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sales were trending down significantly in Europe even before the salute though.
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by onemoresoop on Monday February 10, 2025 @11:44PM
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That doesn’t mean Musk’s gesture didn’t accelerate the downward trend. But I agree with the general sentiment. Overall Teslas can’t compete with other EV makers because as soon as there’s a real market Tesla isn’t that attractive anymore outside of a brand loyal niche. Musk appears to have lost his magic, or perhaps his mind too. Dude looks quite disheveled these days..
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by bdangubic on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @06:28AM
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because as soon as there’s a real market Tesla isn’t that attractive anymore outside of a brand loyal niche.
can't be further from the truth. if you drive tesla and then drive all of the competitors tesla is faaar superior car. cars are great. the core issue here are margins - before competition tesla's could retain the huge margins on their vehicles. feels like in order to compete now they will have to drop the prices and hence their margins and with the forward p/e ratio of 1,000,129 that won't go well for the company's financials. and of course elon being a tool isn't going to be helping with this :)
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by onemoresoop on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @07:11AM
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If they drop price tesla still can’t compete because they are lacking the capacity to increase production
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by bdangubic on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @11:34AM
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they'd be just fine if they sell all the cars they currently have capacity to make with their current margins... not to satisfy the insane evaluation but in general :)
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by UltraSane on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @10:11AM
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Many people will NEVER buy a Tesla because they don't like Musk's politics or behavior.
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by bdangubic on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @11:33AM
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perhaps but I was not commenting on elon or his politics and repercussions from him going full-on insane, I was specifically commenting on because as soon as there’s a real market Tesla isn’t that attractive anymore outside of a brand loyal niche.
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI
by pseudony on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @02:55PM
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Have a model Y.
Had a vw ID.5 before (leased), his assessment is correct. Tesla is a decent car with a NICE infotainment system.
VW's Android system is not wow'ing anyone, but the car is quieter, handles better, turns on a dime, suspension is way more comfy etc - Volkswagen Group knows how to make a car.
(And yea, as a European, this will be my last US oligarch/Nazi car)