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Re:Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong by eru on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @06:28AM (#42947029)
Going a bit on a tangent:

I grew up in Europe, but am now living in Singapore. It's interesting: despite all the PRC's advances and progress in the last few decades, they are still the poorest Chinese-majority country. You can go even wider, and look at countries with sizeable Chinese minorities, like Malaysia or Thailand, and I think you will find that the average ethnic Chinese person there also makes more than the average ethnic Chinese person does in the PRC.

I haven't checked the numbers for all of the relevant countries, but I think it's fair to say that by and large, PR China has the poorest ethnically Chinese people.

Re:Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong by HPsquared on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @06:57AM (#42947277)
Similarly the UK is pretty much the poorest Anglo country. It seems to be a pattern where the most ambitious/productive types "boil off" to where there is more opportunity. I suspect this pattern is reflected with most diaspora groups.
Re:Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong by neom on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @08:57AM (#42948535)
It also begets the other, a place that has that opportunity attracts people who want to work, people who want to work build opportunity, attract more people, etc. Once you're in a death spiral of people who don't want to work and you're not specifically building socialism, you end up in this half functional dead state like my country (Canada). I always say, I honestly don't care if we do communism or capitalism just pick one and do it well.
Re:Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong by eru on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @06:36PM (#42956942)
The best run and most successful socialist country ever was East Germany.

Even by global standards (compared against all countries) it did fairly well. By socialist standards it did really well. By German standards, it did so much worse than Austria, Switzerland or West Germany.

I don't think you want that for Canada. And that's pretty much a best case outcome.

Re:Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong by lazylizard on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @11:08AM (#42950532)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Chinese

how to quantify "by and large"? there's not many chinese people outside china and most of them left china in the last 100 years in search of better lives.

and usa and singapore are rich?

Re:Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong by eru on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @06:38PM (#42956963)
USA and Singapore are stinking rich, yes.

> [...] there's not many chinese people outside china and most of them left china in the last 100 years in search of better lives.

Wikipedia says:

> Overseas Chinese people are people of Chinese origin who reside outside Greater China (mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan).[20] As of 2011, there were over 40.3 million overseas Chinese.[8]

40.3 million is quite a few. And they form significant minorities in many South East Asian countries.

But you are right that eg Germany or South Sudon don't really have enough Chinese people to really say much about them there.