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Re:They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer, an Excerpt by noisy_boy on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @05:55AM (#42946770)
> social media and tech just made this 10x more effective.

Social media took away the hesitation of crowing about stupid things. If many people are saying it, maybe I am not stupid after all. The legitimisation and amplification of dumbness is a big contributor to the current state. Among other things of course.

Re:They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer, an Excerpt by jajko on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @08:07AM (#42947948)
When there started to be money made, and even better real power to be gained by herding such crowds then its not anymore just about self-organization over time, the push becomes very proactive
Re:They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer, an Excerpt by acadapter on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @08:21AM (#42948092)
Social media no longer represents "many people are saying it".

The early internet could give an overview of what's being said in general on a particular topic - but today's content is often manipulated to support or attack a particular viewpoint.

Re:They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer, an Excerpt by antisthenes on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @10:49AM (#42950227)
You don't need to explain with malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity.

In fact that's one of the roads to fascism - constantly looking for "manipulators" everywhere and other witch hunt types.

The longer I live the more I am convinced that the average person has next to 0 ability for critical thinking. They just sort of stumble between local maximas until they end up wherever they are.

Re:They Thought They Were Free, by Milton Mayer, an Excerpt by red-iron-pine on Wednesday February 05, 2025 @03:58PM (#42955027)
> In fact that's one of the roads to fascism - constantly looking for "manipulators" everywhere and other witch hunt types.

Bollocks. Studies suggest as much as 35% of social media posts are fake, and as high as 40% on some forums. This isn't Fascism or paranoia, this is just how large tech companies make money. Like, if you don't understand how AI and scripting align with marketing and propaganda goals then you're gonna get played like a rube every time.

The problem is that "marketing works even when you understand how marketing works", and that it is very hard to maintain constant vigilance.