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Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by 29athrowaway on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @06:36PM (#42940902)
Just call it ECMAScript and forget about "Java".

"JavaScript" was not a good choice of name to begin with. The original JavaScript did not have much in common with Java.

Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by steve_adams_86 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @06:44PM (#42941013)
Brendan Eich said "ECMAScript was always an unwanted trade name that sounds like a skin disease". I think the general sentiment is shared fairly broadly.
Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by forgetfreeman on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:02PM (#42941218)
Yep. There are also many of us that wish it'd stuck out of a deep seated love for truth in advertising.
Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by leptons on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:01PM (#42941210)
Microsoft called their version "JScript", including JScript.NET.
Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by 29athrowaway on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @06:51PM (#42941073)
When JavaScript was created, Java was a trademark of Sun Microsystems.

Then Oracle acquired Sun, and with it, the trademark to Java.

And then this crap started. That was the moment to drop "Java" from the name, everyone knows exactly why.

Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by tomxor on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:12PM (#42941345)
The issue is not with the "Java" trademark (also owned by Oracle), but the "JavaScript" trademark, which was issued to Sun in 1997.

JavaScript was released in 1996... and not at Sun.

i.e the Language and name both pre-date the trademark.

Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by wslh on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @08:04PM (#42941956)
I'm not a lawyer, but I have a few trademarks myself, and I believe it's possible to apply for a trademark even if the language or term predates it. However, if there's a significant gap between the language's release and the trademark application, that could raise other questions. For example, if JavaScript was created in the '70s but Oracle applied for the trademark in the late '90s, when the language became popular, that could be a more complicated case. In this instance, though, there's only a one-year difference! It's quite common for businesses to file for trademarks after they see value in protecting a term.

By the way, when I filed my first trademark application, Sun Microsystems filed an opposition. What a coincidence! This was before Oracle acquired them.

Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by pitched on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:05PM (#42941262)
Javascript is used so widely now that calling it just “Script” is probably fair and would be a lot harder to trademark
Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by ksynwa on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @09:06PM (#42942640)
It does sound like a skin disease
Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by Legion on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:25PM (#42941491)
"WebScript". Call it what it is (non-web uses notwithstanding).
Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by codr7 on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:29PM (#42941557)
HTSL, Hypertext Scripting Language
Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by CountHackulus on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:34PM (#42941605)
I remember briefly calling it DHTML. But that was ages ago.
Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by chuckadams on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:05PM (#42941254)
“LiveScript” wasn’t bad. They really did aim to make JS a scripting system for Java tho, through the LiveConnect Bridge. Unfortunately LiveConnect was a buggy POS. MS had a similar thing going on that was less buggy, but IE-only of course.

So yeah, I don’t miss LiveConnect. Let’s just call it “WebScript” or something.

Re:Oracle justified its JavaScript trademark with Node.js–no... by olestr on Tuesday February 04, 2025 @07:01PM (#42941213)
LiveScript was, and still is, a much better name