The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Government Takeover

Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by timr on Monday February 03, 2025 @02:58PM (#42922154)

So the concept of "doxxing" doesn't apply to anyone who works in a government job? We can just publish the private information of any low-level employee?

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by floatrock on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:25PM (#42922541)

By their unprecedented and legally-murky access level, they're far from "low-level employee".

And for the important folks, we make a loud cry about even their birth certificates and birth parents, so why not this?

All sense of decorum has been burned down long ago, and hilariously, it's been burned down by the same people now pretending to complain here.

If we're gonna make it to the other side of all this, it's going to take another Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, or Roosevelt to restore any of our former dignity. And no, this one's gonna be lucky to have history consider it even a Nixon.

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by timr on Monday February 03, 2025 @04:17PM (#42923285)

Right. So, the basic principle is: if you think you're doing something valorious and can rationalize the result, you can ruin the lives of whomever you like.

This doesn't seem to be a huge leap from the rationalization for "doxxing" in any other period.

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by floatrock on Monday February 03, 2025 @05:58PM (#42924562)

We're still in the "burn it all down" phase, and the problem about "burn it all down" is you get burned too, especially if you're in there looting while the house is on fire.

We haven't yet found the leaders who will be the ones rebuilding. Maybe we have the ones who will be sitting on a charred throne claiming a burned-out husk of a throneroom in their hard-earned kingdom of ash, but not the ones who will rebuild.

So spare me the feigned morality right now, we all know no one's playing by those rules anymore.

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by minimaxir on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:01PM (#42922193)

Access to the Treasury that is normally highly-restricted is the furthest from "low-level employee" that you can get.

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by throw16180339 on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:09PM (#42922296)

When you're helping a fascist destroy our government, you've earned everything that happens to you.

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by KerrAvon on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:02PM (#42922216)

We make exceptions for fascists. We have to.

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by euroderf on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:11PM (#42922322)

Also we make exceptions for ad hoc procedures untested by the courts and not even evaluated by the appropriate government organ (GSA?).

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by freedomben on Monday February 03, 2025 @03:10PM (#42922303)

What's the underlying principle here? If you think somebody is a fascist you can attack their family? Do you think there should be any legal process or protection for anybody accused by another random person of being a fascist?

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Re:The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Gov... by sjsdaiuasgdia on Monday February 03, 2025 @04:20PM (#42923343)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

To maintain a tolerant society, a tolerant society must be specifically intolerant of the intolerant.

Fuck the fascists.

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