> When have gun laws ever stopped a shooting?

Have you heard of Australia? https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/03/13/gun-l...

Australia has no land borders. It's one of the easiest places to secure, and thus it makes sense to do so.

Because most of gun safety is not actually about criminals; it’s about regular people with legal firearms becoming involved in crimes of passion, tragic accidents, and suicides.

America is the worst industrialized country for gun deaths because the guns are present to enable those things to happen. Countless studies show that the key to reducing gun deaths is not more training, more “good guys”, or whatever else — it’s simply having fewer gun households period.

Somehow, in Switzerland every household has a gun, and yet they don't have the American levels of crime.

And indeed, a high proportion of gun deaths in Switzerland are suicides:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzer...

This tracks with:

- High gun ownership

- Strong gun responsibility culture (guns are safely stored, so fewer accidents)

- Strong gun regulation (guns require permits that are not issued to those with criminal records)

The US firearm mortality rate was 5x that of the nearest high-income countries in 2019 [0]. The US had 120 firearms per 100 people in 2018 with 80% of all homicides being gun-related [1].

Those statistics may not be wholly attributable to differences in gun laws but it seems a stretch to suggest they're unrelated.

[0] https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/us-midst-public-health-crisis...

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41488081

You're really going with a position like, "criminals will disobey laws therefore it is pointless to have laws," huh?