If you think proper gun laws would keep guns away from evil people in the US, please explain to me why the war against illegal drugs in the US has been losing since the day it started.

Sure, some places in the world can successfully limit gun access. Those places aren't close and even bordered by the most active cartels in the world.

Just as a fun thought exercise, consider that to grow the plant necessary to produce just a single drug, cocaine, for the country, every year. It takes at least 300,000 acres, or roughly the size of los angeles. That's after decades of optimizations to reduce the amount of land needed. It's also only for one drug among a vast number that are regularly consumed in the US.

In relation, you can 3d print guns at home. Successful builds have been made from some of the cheapest 3d printers you can find.

Drugs are more addictive than guns typically. I am not sure your comparison is useful.

yet in the US just as many households have reported using drugs as own guns

Regarding the drugs vs guns comparison, I bet you'd find that every country that has implemented reasonably effective gun control still has thriving illicit drug markets. Australia is just as zealous at persecuting the drug war as the US but continues to fail at that whereas gun crime is very low.

Australians, for example, don't want guns relative to Americans. It's not hard to ban things people don't want. Prior to 1996 gun laws in Australia, home ownership was like 15%. In the US it's been as high as 45% in recent years. As far as the number of guns owned, we have more guns than people. So yeah, taking a country with 1/3rd the ownership down 75% with regulation that isn't bordered by cartels isn't that shocking to me.

You would never achieve that in the US and that's incredibly obvious to me by looking at the gun crime stats in places that do already have gun control laws in the US.

I don't expect that, so I won't be using public schools.

I have no illusion that safety or education is an actual concern in public schools in general.

They do, but safety and social control go hand in hand.

In any case, its not as if your kid is safer at a private school. Kids are violent, no matter where they are; maybe you remember going through school yourself?

When have gun laws ever stopped a shooting?

When have criminals EVER followed law, code, rules, or even a suggestion from their fellow citizens?

Believing laws deter criminals is almost criminally insane and beggars all logic.

After all of the accumulated evidence against your belief, you still believe laws deter criminality.

The death penalty doesn’t deter criminals. How could words possibly have an effect?

> When have gun laws ever stopped a shooting?

Have you heard of Australia? https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2018/03/13/gun-l...

Australia has no land borders. It's one of the easiest places to secure, and thus it makes sense to do so.

Because most of gun safety is not actually about criminals; it’s about regular people with legal firearms becoming involved in crimes of passion, tragic accidents, and suicides.

America is the worst industrialized country for gun deaths because the guns are present to enable those things to happen. Countless studies show that the key to reducing gun deaths is not more training, more “good guys”, or whatever else — it’s simply having fewer gun households period.

Somehow, in Switzerland every household has a gun, and yet they don't have the American levels of crime.

And indeed, a high proportion of gun deaths in Switzerland are suicides:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzer...

This tracks with:

- High gun ownership

- Strong gun responsibility culture (guns are safely stored, so fewer accidents)

- Strong gun regulation (guns require permits that are not issued to those with criminal records)

The US firearm mortality rate was 5x that of the nearest high-income countries in 2019 [0]. The US had 120 firearms per 100 people in 2018 with 80% of all homicides being gun-related [1].

Those statistics may not be wholly attributable to differences in gun laws but it seems a stretch to suggest they're unrelated.

[0] https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/us-midst-public-health-crisis...

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41488081

You're really going with a position like, "criminals will disobey laws therefore it is pointless to have laws," huh?