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Re:Instagram and Facebook Blocked and Hid Abortion Pill Prov... by ceejayoz on Friday January 31, 2025 @05:46PM (#42893230)
> You may not agree with the current administration, but they won the popular vote. What would you rather them do, defy the current administration? Sounds pretty anti-democratic to me.

Does this concept of yours apply to, say, the Heritage Foundation, Musk's Twitter, Fox News, etc. during the Biden presidency?

Re:Instagram and Facebook Blocked and Hid Abortion Pill Prov... by gruez on Friday January 31, 2025 @05:59PM (#42893384)
>Does this concept of yours apply to, say, the Heritage Foundation, Musk's Twitter, Fox News, etc. during the Biden presidency?

The Heritage Foundation and Fox News are basically advocacy organizations so their remit includes criticizing the government. For that reason they get a pass. I don't know what you're referring to with "Musk's Twitter [...] during the Biden presidency", so you're going to have to elaborate.

Re:Instagram and Facebook Blocked and Hid Abortion Pill Prov... by ceejayoz on Friday January 31, 2025 @06:03PM (#42893418)
Biden won the popular vote.

Musk, as the owner of Twitter, opposed and frequently "defied" Biden and his policies.

Was that "anti-democratic", as your theory appears to assert?

> The Heritage Foundation and Fox News are basically advocacy organizations so their remit includes criticizing the government.

Everyone gets to criticize the government. That's how the First Amendment works. It's not restricted to advocacy organizations.

Re:Instagram and Facebook Blocked and Hid Abortion Pill Prov... by 8note on Friday January 31, 2025 @06:23PM (#42893624)
> Everyone gets to criticize the government. That's how the First Amendment works. It's not restricted to advocacy organizations.

this is currently being tested, with Trump revoking student visas based on students criticizing the government.

Re:Instagram and Facebook Blocked and Hid Abortion Pill Prov... by gruez on Friday January 31, 2025 @06:07PM (#42893465)
>Musk, as the owner of Twitter, opposed and frequently "defied" Biden and his policies.

Examples?

>Everyone gets to criticize the government. That's how the First Amendment works. It's not restricted to advocacy organizations.

Does this extend to "exxon hiring lobbyists to convince congress that climate change isn't an issue"?

Re:Instagram and Facebook Blocked and Hid Abortion Pill Prov... by ceejayoz on Friday January 31, 2025 @06:13PM (#42893530)
> Examples?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/tech/twitter-files-lawyers/in...

(Plus a couple hundred million dollars towards his opponent's campaign.)

> Does this extend to "exxon hiring lobbyists to convince congress that climate change isn't an issue"?

Yes, that was and is explicitly legal.

(Morally shitty. But that's freedom!)

Re:Instagram and Facebook Blocked and Hid Abortion Pill Prov... by gruez on Friday January 31, 2025 @06:40PM (#42893815)
>https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/tech/twitter-files-lawyers/in...

The roles are entirely reversed here. Rather than the company voluntarily complying with the administration, musk alleges that biden administration officials illegally try to pressure twitter. I agree that if trump tried to illegally pressure zuck into censoring abortion pills, that would be improper on the part of trump, but at the same time I wouldn't fault zuck for caving.

>Yes, that was and is explicitly legal.

>(Morally shitty. But that's freedom!)

The question is whether it's "democratic", not whether it's illegal. The fact that you think it's "morally shitty", suggests think that you agree it's antidemocratic.

Re:Instagram and Facebook Blocked and Hid Abortion Pill Prov... by ceejayoz on Friday January 31, 2025 @06:54PM (#42893929)
> I agree that if trump tried to illegally pressure zuck into censoring abortion pills, that would be improper on the part of trump, but at the same time I wouldn't fault zuck for caving.

He is clearly caving to pressure, either present or expected.

> The fact that you think it's "morally shitty", suggests think that you agree it's antidemocratic.

No. Democracy and shittiness are not mutually exclusive.