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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by zombiwoof on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @04:29PM (#42871429)
Exactly. They piggybacked of lots of compute and used less. There still is a total sum of a massive amount of compute
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by da_chicken on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @04:37PM (#42871502)
I mean, yes that's how progress works. Has OpenAI got a patent? If not it's fair game.

We don't make people figure out how to domesticate a cow every time they want a hamburger. Or test hundreds of thousands of filaments before they can have a lightbulb. Inventions, once invented, exist as giants to stand upon. The inventor can either choose to disclose the invention and earn a patent for exclusive rights, or they can try to keep it a secret and hope nobody reverse engineers it.

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by cratermoon on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @06:18PM (#42872632)
OpenAI piggybacked on the whole internet and the catalogued and shared human knowledge therein.
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by fmbb on Thursday January 30, 2025 @01:43AM (#42875510)
That’s a lot of watt hours!
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by PeterStuer on Thursday January 30, 2025 @03:56AM (#42876154)
And lets not forget a gazillion hours of human reinforcement by armies of 3rd world mechanical turks.
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by bitfilped on Sunday February 02, 2025 @02:12PM (#42910918)
Except OpenAI hasn't shared anything.
Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by TeMPOraL on Thursday January 30, 2025 @07:38AM (#42877197)
Sure. This is fine. Data is still a product, no matter how much businesses would like to turn it into a service.

The model already embodies the "total sum of a massive amount of compute" used to create it; if it's possible to reuse that embodied compute to create a better model, that's good for the world. Forcing everyone to redo all that compute for themselves is, conversely, bad for the world.

Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by RHSman2 on Thursday January 30, 2025 @04:11PM (#42882230)
Nothing good for the world in this ai race but your comment is very good.