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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by cscurmudgeon on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:48AM (#42866409)
Scraping data is different from scraping outputs from a model.
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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by Rebelgecko on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @12:02PM (#42867736)
Copyright is weird and often legal ≠ moral, but I'm having a hard time constructing a mental model where it's ok to scrape a novel written by a person but it's not ok to scrape a story written by chatgpt
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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by jacobgorm on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:53AM (#42866481)
No it is not, data is data, whether it gets loaded from a file on disk or generated by multiplying lots of matrices.
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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by idle_zealot on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:56AM (#42866539)
Like, in a strict literal sense, sure? Do you mean to make a claim about moral or legal differences?
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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by wkz on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:57AM (#42866559)
Technically, sure. What is the moral distinction though?
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Re:OpenAI Furious DeepSeek Might Have Stolen All the Data Op... by openrisk on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @10:57AM (#42866547)
Because the data is mine and the model is yours?
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