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Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by dfxm12 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @11:32AM (#42854266)
The lock on your front door is more secure than the lock on your bedroom door. This tradeoff is for convenience, of course.

A entrance to a mini-storage place is probably OK to be weak. Presumably, you are required to have a proper lock on your own unit. Likewise, the PIN is generally the 2nd factor (along with "something you have") for important things. I'm OK with the convenience of having only a 4 digit PIN on my ATM card since I can reasonably protect & deactivate the card. If someone forces me to enter my pin under duress, it doesn't really matter how many digits it is.

Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by taeric on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @11:39AM (#42854379)
Probably worth noting that using another PIN like that to enter a storage facility is almost certainly a breach of terms of use. Such that, if you did anything in there that is not ok with everyone, they have easy legal recourse against you.
Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by bagels on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @12:34PM (#42855245)
Probably limited to termination of your rental.
Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by taeric on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:10PM (#42856567)
Would depend what else you did, I presume? I also just meant this as an "in addition" to the idea that it isn't aiming for fool proof protection.
Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by toast0 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @12:25PM (#42855090)
> A entrance to a mini-storage place is probably OK to be weak. Presumably, you are required to have a proper lock on your own unit.

You'd like the entrance to be strong, because access to the entrance grants you secluded access to all the units, and angle grinders beat locks in seconds, proper locks in just a few more seconds.

Of course, cars beat entrance gates pretty easily too.

Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by amanaplanacanal on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @12:56PM (#42855573)
Hopefully they have cameras in there.
Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by Y_Y on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @01:34PM (#42856075)
They're hardly worth stealing.

Or do you mean they might prevent theft? Or deter it? It is my experience that they are pretty useless at both.

Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by idiotsecant on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @12:50PM (#42855487)
If it's ok to be so weak that it's trivial to enter like this, why have the lock at all? The cynical (and probably accurate) answer is that it's security theater designed to give customers warm fuzzy feelings cheaply and with low risk of lockout calls and maintainance issues. It does basically nothing to keep someone from taking your stuff.
Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by dfxm12 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @01:31PM (#42856026)
It's weak, but I don't know if trivial is the right word. Like a bedroom lock, it does what it needs to do. First, the lock is probably there to make it easier for one remote security guy to monitor many locations after hours. They can be alerted when a door opens, has been ajar for a while and along with a camera, see what's going on. Other than that, you also want a lock to help keep the door closed to help keep climate control working efficiently, keep animals out, etc. Like I had been alluding to, when you rent a unit, you're told that you are responsible for locking your own unit with a specific, harder, lock, like a front door lock. If an attacker can get by this lock, entrance to the premises would have been possible as well.

On that note, I don't think the absence of a super strong lock on the front door of a storage place invites criminals. I live near open air storage facilities where anyone can just walk up to the units, like they're walking by cars on the street or in a parking lot. Thefts from storage units are just not big enough of an issue to require additional measures.

Re:Almost one in 10 people use the same four-digit PIN by throawayonthe on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @12:53PM (#42855522)
dissuading the least motivated perpetrators, ability to add a "breaking and entering" charge perhaps?