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Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by cyberax on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:15AM (#42849704)
> DeepSeek is still a big model that requires a lot of resources to run

I can run the largest model at 4 tokens per second on a 64GB card. Smaller models are _faster_ than Phi-4.

I've just switched to it for my local inference.

Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by KeplerBoy on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:50AM (#42849894)
Isn't the largest model still like 130GB after heavy quantization[1] and 4 tok/s borderline unusable for interactive sessions with those long outputs?

[1] https://unsloth.ai/blog/deepseekr1-dynamic

Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by thot_experiment on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:57AM (#42849932)
OP probably means "the largest distilled model"
Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by menaerus on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @03:36AM (#42850146)
So not an actual DeepSeek-R1 model but a distilled Qwen or Llama model.

From DeepSeek-R1 paper:

> As shown in Table 5, simply distilling DeepSeek-R1’s outputs enables the efficient DeepSeekR1-7B (i.e., DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-7B, abbreviated similarly below) to outperform nonreasoning models like GPT-4o-0513 across the board.

and

> DeepSeek-R1-14B surpasses QwQ-32BPreview on all evaluation metrics, while DeepSeek-R1-32B and DeepSeek-R1-70B significantly exceed o1-mini on most benchmarks.

and

> These [Distilled Model Evaluation] results demonstrate the strong potential of distillation. Additionally, we found that applying RL to these distilled models yields significant further gains. We believe this warrants further exploration and therefore present only the results of the simple SFT-distilled models here.

Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @04:38AM (#42850529)
I told it to skip all reasoning and explanations and output just the code. It complied, saving a lot of time)
Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by OKRainbowKid on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:54AM (#42852984)
Wouldn't that also result in it skipping the "thinking" and thus in worse results?
Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by K0balt on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @09:42AM (#42852853)
Yes, but even that can still be run (slowly) on cpu-only systems down to about 32gb. Memory virtualization is a thing. If you get used to using it like email rather than chat, it’s still super useful even if you are waiting 1/2 hour for your reply. Presumably you have a fast distill on tap for interactive stuff.

I run my models in an agentic framework with fast models that can ask slower models or APIs when needed. It works perfectly, 60 percent of the time lol.

Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by manojlds on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:57AM (#42849929)
How are you running it, can you be more specific?
Re:Nvidia, ASML Plunge as DeepSeek Triggers Tech Stock Selloff by cyberax on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @01:40PM (#42856148)
DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-70B on triple 4090 cards.