Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray
by nradov on Monday January 27, 2025 @05:13PM
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Right, and we've seen plenty of people who lead the "Rat Park" equivalent of human lives and yet still get addicted to opioids. There's clearly no single cause.
Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray
by sunjieming on Monday January 27, 2025 @05:31PM
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I think 90% of my HS psych class didn't replicate
Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray
by layman51 on Monday January 27, 2025 @06:04PM
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Can you elaborate more on this? I did not take psychology in high school, but I would imagine that such a course would focus on fundamental concepts where “replicating” wouldn’t even be an issue. There might be teachers who might bring up the pop-sci topics, but wouldn’t the meat of the class just be learning about theories or frameworks?
Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray
by throwup238 on Monday January 27, 2025 @06:53PM
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Not the OP and I didn’t take psych but here’s an example syllabus for AP Psychology from the College Board: https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/ap-psychology-s...
The first two units on neurology and cognition seem sensible, but I can see how it’ll quickly go off the rails after that.
Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray
by disgruntledphd2 on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @01:57PM
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This seems entirely fine, after a brief review of the contents. Where do you think it goes off the rails?
Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray
by throwaway2037 on Monday January 27, 2025 @09:04PM
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> never replicated
Not exactly.Wiki says:
Studies that followed up on the contribution of environmental enrichment to addiction produced mixed results.
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park#Further_experiments
Re:The Alpha Myth: How captive wolves led us astray
by mmooss on Monday January 27, 2025 @09:07PM
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> it never replicated and should be considered just as bogus
Did someone try to replicate it? What were the results? What were their conclusions about its credibility?
> all the other stuff in social psych which hasn't survived the replication crisis.
Replication isn't black and white: Most of the experiments - at least in the early widely reported phase - did replicate but with less statistically strong results.
It's fitting for this thread though, because it survives for the exact reason the alpha wolf stuff survives: people love the story so they hang on to it irrespective of the science.