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Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by mrkramer on Monday January 27, 2025 @12:54PM (#42843743)
Google has hell of a moat because they are continuously crawling and indexing the Web for the last 27 years. They have tons of data and information that can be used for training of their AI.
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by kingstoned on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:17PM (#42845156)
The result of that is suggesting to put delicious glue on a pizza. Yummy https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/11/24176490/mm-delicious-glu...
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by mrkramer on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:43PM (#42845420)
At this point Google has zettabytes of data and there is no efficient way for them and their algorithms to realize what is going on exactly....but I sometimes still wonder how things like this happen.

When speaking about ranking I think they should enforce PageRank more because I don't see any other algorithm that is more simpler and more powerful than this one.

Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by tim333 on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:51PM (#42845490)
That one happened because Gemini read it on Reddit and hadn't figured it was a joke. It was only up there from its launch through till about four days later when someone removed it.
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by mrkramer on Monday January 27, 2025 @04:02PM (#42845585)
Yea, AI still can't figure out jokes, irony, metaphor etc. Perplexity also quotes Reddit very often, idk how smart is that.
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by tim333 on Monday January 27, 2025 @04:17PM (#42845726)
They are getting better at fact checking, Google apprently working on Googling the answer - Hassabis at Davos the other day: https://youtu.be/ICv03VysLaE?t=826
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by mrkramer on Monday January 27, 2025 @05:50PM (#42846694)
It already exists in Gemini and it existed in Bard....now it's called "Double-check response". Here is pic of it in action: https://i.imgur.com/aIISzt5.png
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by aitchnyu on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @02:04AM (#42849638)
It does not allow us to see the links behind the facts. Thats dismaying.
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by tim333 on Monday January 27, 2025 @03:49PM (#42845473)
The other thing Google has, and maybe Meta, is good monetization technology. I'm not sure how monetization of AI will work but I can see if you ask about flights say it'll link to Google's holiday booking stuff etc.
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by AznHisoka on Monday January 27, 2025 @12:56PM (#42843774)
Increasing amounts of data is also becoming hidden behind walled gardens like LinkedIn, Instagram and Slack/group chats.
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by polygon87 on Monday January 27, 2025 @01:35PM (#42844177)
LinkedIn at least shows up prominently in Google search results, not sure about IG. And Google still has some majored walled gardens of its own like Docs, Gmail, and YouTube.
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by AznHisoka on Monday January 27, 2025 @01:44PM (#42844267)
Google picks up some LinkedIn content, but I would venture it’s a very small slice of what is out there. Just doing a google search for several posts I see on my feed, and very few if any shows up. Same for IG (which makes sense as a lot of profiles are private)
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by maeil on Monday January 27, 2025 @09:46PM (#42848355)
I wouldn't be surprised if LinkedIn is eventually excluded from training datasets. It's inclusion trains the LLMs to generate slop, which the providers will eventually be looking to reduce.
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by 42lux on Tuesday January 28, 2025 @06:08AM (#42851054)
I tested 1000 AI tools in one day…
Re:Google "We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI" (2023) by maeil on Wednesday January 29, 2025 @09:14AM (#42865109)
And here are 3 things I learned.