Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by bowsamic on Saturday January 25, 2025 @05:45AM
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Fair enough I’m just saying I live in Germany and just entered my first software position and get 73k, and I don’t live in Berlin or anything. I suppose in Spain living expenses are much cheaper. Your monthly expenses including food are less than my rent. Tho I still think I have more than 2100 left over after expenses
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Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by pjmlp on Saturday January 25, 2025 @07:53AM
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I am active in DACH space since 2003, and I am surprised that isn't between 50k and 60k for a junior position.
More to you, but that isn't a common entry level, at least for companies whose main business isn't selling software.
Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by intelVISA on Saturday January 25, 2025 @08:20AM
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DACH is like the reverse Silicon Valley?
Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by pjmlp on Saturday January 25, 2025 @08:37AM
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Including healthcare, vacation days, maternity leave, no calls after work or during vacations, not being on call unless paid for and is on the contract, unions,...
Yep, the exact opposite.
Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by einsteinx2 on Sunday January 26, 2025 @08:52AM
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Maybe you just have no experience with Silicon Valley or just hate it for whatever reason, but the only thing in that list that doesn’t apply to SV is the unions… Not sure the point you’re making.
Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by pjmlp on Monday January 27, 2025 @01:11AM
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Does it? It isn't what usually surfaces in the US press.
Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by em-bee on Saturday January 25, 2025 @06:42AM
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73k as a junior? (your first software position)
that sounds like a major exception. the average for juniors in germany is 50k or below.
Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by bowsamic on Saturday January 25, 2025 @09:47AM
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I have a PhD, maybe that's the difference. I asked for 65k but they refused and gave me 73k
Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by em-bee on Saturday January 25, 2025 @10:20AM
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ah, yes, that's probably it. also typical german. don't pay for the role, but for the formal qualification.
Re:The FizzBuzz that did not get me the job
by quectophoton on Saturday January 25, 2025 @05:58AM
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Yeah to be fair I don't live in a big city or any touristic location where monthly expenses could easily double, but it's still nice and comfy enough that I don't plan on moving even if money weren't an issue.