Wink wink, nudge nudge.

I don't have insight into what Elon thinks, but there's just no reason to make that sort of sign regardless of the context or history ("giving my heart" or roman or other salutes or whatever). Please don't attempt to downplay what was probably an intentional gesture, and if it wasn't intentional, simply shows how clueless he is.

I rarely comment on politics on HN but when folks start acting like Hitler, it's time to speak up and say no.

Soccer players have been in trouble for suggesting this gesture in a much, much, much more subtle way (keeping the arm down).

Nobody can make the gesture Musk did, the way he did it, without realising what it is.

Are you sure you're not playing down the gesture because you like the guy?

It's a little more than that... twice. https://youtube.com/watch?v=joV-9FFoA3Q

Given it's her left arm, no.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_salute

> The salute is performed by extending the right arm from the shoulder into the air with a straightened hand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute

> The Roman salute, also known as the Fascist salute, is a gesture in which the right arm is fully extended, facing forward, with palm down and fingers touching.

Not knowing the most basic details of the gesture makes it hard to credit your "it's very different" message.

Anyone making a gesture of that sort is going to get an enormous amount of media. It was outrageously poorly considered to anyone with any knowledge of history, especially in such a venue and situation.

Most people don't make gestures that can so easily be misunderstood as a sieg heil.

Now add in Elon's many, many weird overlaps with white supremacy -- not to mention that we can't ignore the weird correlation with Musk, Sacks and Thiel all being outputs of apartheid South Africa, all three showing certain predilections -- most recently heralding a notorious far-right German party AfD, and it takes just incredibly gymnastics to pretend this was benign. That the obvious interpretation was, as the other person said, wink wink nudge nudge encouraged.

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Just for the record, because it irked me and I wanted to refute it: the flagged comment said anyone with a knowledge of history would know this isn't a Hitler salute, because that's not done at an angle. And yes, I guess the "most pure" form is doing it frontally, but here is an image of Hitler doing the salute -- at an angle, from what I can tell.

https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gettyim...

NSFW, I guess. actually, who wants to look at it even outside of work... but anyone who genuinely doubts that this could possibly be mistaken for a Hitler salute, do take a look.

And here's video: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1i6nylm/...

This is serious gaslighting.

He’s done it twice. He also openly supports the German far right party. He also famously does nothing against neo nazis on Twitter. What more do you want?

Musk would literally have voted for Hitler in the 30’s. And probably paid for his campaign too.