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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by mrkramer on Sunday January 19, 2025 @07:40AM (#42756489)
>This statement is not entirely accurate. It is possible for a US social media company to operate in mainland China, provided it complies with local regulations, including hosting its servers in China and adhering to censorship requirements.

Read about Google's search engine project in China aka Project Dragonfly[0]; it was a totalitarian dystopian nightmare where CCP wanted to know everything about people who use Google, like their queries and mobile phone numbers and plus they demanded from Google that millions of websites/webpages must be censored (removed from Google's China index).

Project Dragonfly was like Stalin's manifestation of perfect surveillance and propaganda tool.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(search_engine)

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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wildrhythms on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:02AM (#42756617)
Rest assured agencies in the U.S. can (and do) do all of that and more to U.S. Google today with a simple warrant or takedown notice.
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by mrkramer on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:10AM (#42756652)
US is liberal democracy China is not and how much information is censored on Google.com if any? And did US government use Google to target individuals or ethnic groups within US?
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wildrhythms on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:51AM (#42756939)
>how much information is censored on Google.com if any?

Is this a serious question? Google removes all sorts of content from its index.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google#:~:text=G....

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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by mrkramer on Sunday January 19, 2025 @09:05AM (#42757058)
Majority of those removals are safety removals not ideological censorship based on some socialist or whatever ideology.
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by jmbwell on Sunday January 19, 2025 @10:46AM (#42758014)
No its “intellectual property” “protection” based on some capitalist or whatever ideology

Same thing, different beneficiaries in power

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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by mrkramer on Sunday January 19, 2025 @11:32AM (#42758498)
Ok so US doesn't want "socialist" influence in US and China doesn't want "capitalistic" influence in China. Eye for an eye. Problem solved.
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by op00to on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:24AM (#42756751)
> with a simple warrant

See the difference?

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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wildrhythms on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:49AM (#42756929)
You are putting a lot of faith in the police and judges that issue those things.
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by thoroughburro on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:57AM (#42756990)
Just a little bit more than my faith in “no oversight whatsoever”, yes.
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by wildrhythms on Sunday January 19, 2025 @09:07AM (#42757084)
A pro-cop 'hacker', lol very interesting stuff.
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by rvnx on Sunday January 19, 2025 @09:15AM (#42757166)
and there is no transparency needed, warrants don't have to be public in most countries.
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by ceejayoz on Sunday January 19, 2025 @09:34AM (#42757344)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_(...

Not really?

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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by Forbo on Sunday January 19, 2025 @10:48AM (#42758041)
See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction

Americans have way more faith in America being the good guys than is warranted.

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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by Geezus_42 on Sunday January 19, 2025 @01:57PM (#42760303)
And Google gave the NSA direct connections into their data centers in order to spy on US citizens in secret.
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