Re:TikTok goes dark in the US
by FranzFerdiNaN on Sunday January 19, 2025 @01:54AM
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Freedom of speech isn’t freedom of a platform. Their speech isn’t limited.
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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US
by jakelazaroff on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:00AM
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Imagine saying this if the government shut down, say, a newspaper publishing things they didn’t like. “Freedom of speech isn’t freedom of a platform; the reporters can write elsewhere.”
Idk for the US, but where I live, newspapers have special laws that protects them more than other platforms. Pretty sure it’s the same in the US.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US
by jakelazaroff on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:12AM
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That is not correct.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US
by ternaryoperator on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:13AM
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Freedom of the press is guaranteed in the first amendment, "freedom of the platform" is a non-existent right.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US
by tsimionescu on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:25AM
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And what makes TikTok different from a newspaper, fundamentally?
Both are publishing stories written by others (reporters for the newspaper, subscribers for TikTok), and taking decisions on which stories to publish (through direct editorial control for the newspaper, through the algorithm + some direct editorial control for TikTok).
Newspapers are not platforms; they are publications. They have editors who set editorial policy. They are selctive about the content they publish and who writes it. And they are accountable for what gets published.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US
by tsimionescu on Sunday January 19, 2025 @06:49AM
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TikTok is mainly accused exactly of having an editorial policy, via boosting certain content that its owners prefer and de-prioritizing content that they don't. So this is a non-sequitur. And even when talking about false information, newspapers face 0 legal risks for publishing false information, unless it is defamatory (and even then, it's a civil action, no state prosecutor will investigate a paper for publishing false and defamatory information).
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US
by jakelazaroff on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:20AM
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No one is talking about “freedom of the platform”. The literal text of the First Amendment with regard to these things is “Congress shall make no law …abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”. If the government shuts down a venue because they don’t like what people are saying there, they are abridging those people’s speech.