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Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by bjourne on Friday January 17, 2025 @04:48PM (#42743621)
> They hacked all of our major telco's and many of America's regulatory organizations including the treasury department.

Please cite your sources. After decades of watching American propaganda, we know all too well that it is trivial to make up shit from thin air and have a large segment of the population eat it up.

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by pdabbadabba on Friday January 17, 2025 @05:02PM (#42743754)
I'm tempted to say: what's the point if you've preemptively disregarded it as made up "American propaganda."

But here you go anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Typhoon

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by bjourne on Friday January 17, 2025 @06:04PM (#42744176)
Yes, what is the point if the cites you have are all based on speculation and vague allegations by US officials? Do you actually have credible evidence that a group affiliated with the Chinese government hacked American ISPs? If not, don't bother.
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by stevenAthompson on Friday January 17, 2025 @06:10PM (#42744210)
CISA does. Much of it has been made public.

Google it yourself, if you're actually interested. It's fascinating.

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by bjourne on Friday January 17, 2025 @09:40PM (#42745323)
What makes you think I haven't googled it already? Yes, the US CISA agency claims it. But no evidence has been presented.
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by herbst on Saturday January 18, 2025 @04:13AM (#42746954)
Even if there were some kind of evidence, the US doesn't actually have a track record on being honest with anything like that.
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by pdabbadabba on Thursday January 23, 2025 @11:49AM (#42805597)
> the cites you have are all based on speculation and vague allegations by US officials

Totally untrue. It was also confirmed by officials from affected companies as well as Cybersecurity monitoring companies. There is quite a bit more detail and substantiation -- even in the Wikipedia article -- than you are acknowledging.

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by ethbr1 on Friday January 17, 2025 @05:01PM (#42743749)
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by jampekka on Friday January 17, 2025 @05:42PM (#42744046)
NYT would of course never back erroneous allegations by US officials on geopolitical matters like these.
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by ethbr1 on Friday January 17, 2025 @06:19PM (#42744267)
What satisfiable criteria would you like in a source?
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by bjourne on Saturday January 18, 2025 @01:13AM (#42746284)
Read the sources carefully. It all boils down to "US officials says so". It's different from the Podesta hack as forensic evidence were published linking Russian hackers to the attack.
Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by ethbr1 on Saturday January 18, 2025 @08:18AM (#42748115)
The Podesta "hack" was a spear phishing link, no? With the emails then published by Wikileaks?

What forensic evidence was published?

Afaicr, it was attributed on the basis of methods. Gmail didn't publicly disclose any internal logging.

And the email chain of custody is unreliable, so post-leak analysis has the can't-spot-a-perfect-forgery problem.

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by bjourne on Saturday January 18, 2025 @10:01AM (#42748852)
Fancy Bear and their software was analyzed by FireEye and Secureworks. You can judge for yourself whether you find the evidence persuasive:

https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/apt... https://www.secureworks.com/research/threat-group-4127-targe...

No such evidence has been published implicating the Chinese government.

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by Aunche on Friday January 17, 2025 @06:40PM (#42744421)
I'm not sure about "all our major telco's, but there is this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora

> On January 12, 2010, Google revealed on its weblog that it had been the victim of a cyber attack. The company said the attack occurred in mid-December and originated from China. Google stated that more than 20 other companies had been attacked; other sources have since cited that more than 34 organizations were targeted.

Re:Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting stage f... by stevenAthompson on Friday January 17, 2025 @07:22PM (#42744651)
> I'm not sure...

I am. Google Salt Typhoon.