The idea that self-driving cars will be anywhere in any timeframe is actually very pessimistic to me.

really? i can already call a self-driving car in LA but the idea that this will scale up in the next 10 years is out there?

Waymo is not self driving. It’s remote operated, much more expensive. People will not give up their vehicle for an expensive taxi service. There are no self driving cars that actually work and there are none on the horizon.

it’s not remote operated and it is also not much more expensive and i have no idea why you assume costs will be constant.

i take waymos all the time, often replacing my car, i have never had a single issue

Literally so easy to find out that it’s remote operated with the operators taking over on average once per mile. That can’t scale in a cost effective way unless you only use it like once a week. People who need to drive everyday can’t afford it. Otherwise they’d just be ubering everywhere now instead of owning a car.

you literally do not know what you’re talking about, source me a number on the “once per mile” intervention - i’ve driven hundreds of miles in waymo and never had an intervention

of course they can scale in a cost effective manner, the operating costs are theoretically the same as just owning a car but they get to amortize it across many different users and don’t have to pay for human labor

They do have to pay the human labor because it’s not self driving.

source your claims. i’m pretty sure waymo doesn’t even support remote operation as such, just waypoint drawing