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Re:Nobody Cares by dgfitz on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @06:45PM (#42718877)
My spouse bought us kindles recently, and it popped in my head today that at some point e-books are going to have ads interspersed…
Re:Nobody Cares by culi on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @06:53PM (#42718965)
There are kindle alternatives. Luckily the technology isn't that advanced and any/all of them pretty much MUST support a general PDF (or whatever other similar format). You might have to manage your own library a bit but that means you can just use these devices completely offline

I think e-readers are not that high on the list of technologies most at risk to be taken over by ads

Re:Nobody Cares by roland35 on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @08:20PM (#42719783)
Kindles already can have ads on the sleep screen! Unless you paid for the ad free version.
Re:Nobody Cares by dgfitz on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:22PM (#42720250)
Oh my…I’ll have to ask, I bet they did. Unreal.
Re:Nobody Cares by whycome on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:43PM (#42720413)
So far, Kobos are the way better option in my opinion. No ads, and it's much easier to add your own books. It's (currently) a much more open system. But, not without fault. They've shut down some older readers for no good reason.
Re:Nobody Cares by Uvix on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @11:23PM (#42721179)
"Easier to add your own books"... it depends. Yes, if you have ePubs and want to transfer files to the reader via USB, Kobo is marginally easier. But Kindle is easier for wireless delivery (regardless of format), and supports it on all of their models instead of just a limited subset.
Re:Nobody Cares by TheFreim on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @11:59PM (#42721434)
I have KOReader on my Kobo device, with a couple taps I can connect to my desktop instance of Calibre and transfer books in a flash.

https://koreader.rocks

Re:Nobody Cares by whycome on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @11:32PM (#42721247)
There are some awesome independent tools to get files on the device via the web.

Try https://send.djazz.se/

But you’re right. Via email is easy. And I’m mostly thinking of epubs/mobi — but drm free.

Re:Nobody Cares by barnabee on Thursday January 16, 2025 @05:25AM (#42723607)
The Onyx Boox readers have a feature called BooxDrop which runs a web server on the device when you enable it that provides file management and upload. It simple, wireless, and works great.

The readers work perfectly fine without an account and the Poke 5 I have is a fair bit smaller than the last Kindle I had with the same size screen.

It runs Android and I also use Termux plus a bluetooth keyboard with it for a rather nice minimal writing experience.

Re:Nobody Cares by dspillett on Thursday January 16, 2025 @06:59AM (#42724163)
I've been tempted by their products in the past, but unless they've improved their stance on their use of GPL covered code in a non-compliant manner I don't want to support their business.
Re:Nobody Cares by barnabee on Friday January 17, 2025 @10:55AM (#42739079)
It's a fair point and since hearing about that I've been in two minds as to whether I could buy another device from them.
Re:Nobody Cares by ycombinatrix on Thursday January 16, 2025 @06:34AM (#42723997)
They also use incredibly annoying DRM
Re:Nobody Cares by warner25 on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @10:04PM (#42720575)
If you put them into the Kindle Kids mode you get a much cleaner, more streamlined, ad-free experience without paying extra. I've seen a few adults say that they prefer it to the full-featured mode.
Re:Nobody Cares by internet_points on Thursday January 16, 2025 @04:59AM (#42723418)
i sent an email to have them removed. it was a thing some years ago at least (though I don't know if US-ians are allowed to do that or if it's just in the EU)
Re:Nobody Cares by raphael_l on Thursday January 16, 2025 @06:42AM (#42724059)
I actually recently purchased my first Kindle, as well as an gift upgrade for my partner. I researched and talked to a friend of mine who owns one.

At first I was determined I would purchase the ad-free version (I think the price difference was like ~20€), but after talking to my friend they kind of convinced me that the ad version is not so bad.

2 points on this: 1. The ad appears only on the lockscreen of the device, so you see it once and then never again until you reopen it. The ad is also only for a book in the Kindle store, never anything else (this might seem trivial, but I think one of the negative aspects of advertising is being blasted with stimuli about so many different things you don't care for)

2. The ads are personalized on books you bought and therefor a sort of recommendation engine. Both my friend and my partner told me they got some inspiration from those ads to find books they liked.

So all in all while I despise ads, I gave this one a try. Personally (and yeah, I know – subconciously) I have never looked at the lockscreen apart from the first time I launched it. It's a relatively non-intrusive ad about a book that I don't even need to engage with. And in case something relevant is on there, it leads to a good outcome for me.

This is advertising done well for me at least.

Re:Nobody Cares by spc476 on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:04PM (#42720098)
I've found books that had ads inserted into them [1]. It seemed to be a thing from maybe the 1960/1970s. The ad page was a different type of paper, and no text from the book was on it (that is---the ad wasn't on one side and book text on the other).

[1] One example: https://boston.conman.org/2002/12/31.1

Re:Nobody Cares by wantoncl on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:23PM (#42720261)
Re:Nobody Cares by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:19PM (#42720226)
There was a post, here, some time ago, about how many paperbacks had ads actually woven into the story. Apparently, it was quite common practice, at one time. Sort of an obnoxious “product placement” thing. I think the author had nothing to do with it.
Re:Nobody Cares by cbsks on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:07PM (#42720119)
My dad has some old sci-fi books with full color cigarette ads in the middle. Crazy!
Re:Nobody Cares by dspillett on Thursday January 16, 2025 @06:54AM (#42724132)
Sometimes ads end up in the actual text, without the authors permission or even knowledge: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/q1wbie/the_time_te...
Re:Nobody Cares by Animats on Thursday January 16, 2025 @02:23AM (#42722363)
That was so unpopular that it died out.

Paper magazines still have "blow ins", though - advertising cards that are injected into the magazine with compressed air after printing. They're not bound in. They fall out.

Re:Nobody Cares by shae on Thursday January 16, 2025 @12:25AM (#42721635)
My swedish books from the 1800s have ads inside.