News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by wnoise on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @02:38PM (#42702637)
Normally to be covered under "incitement", it has to be a call for imminent unlawful behavior.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by EA-3167 on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @02:44PM (#42702737)
A hit-list of specific individuals seems like it falls under that category, doubly so when it's clearly intended to be a "continuation" of the UHC CEO assassination.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by idlewords on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @02:57PM (#42702942)
The guy also posted "the CEO must die" to his Instagram.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by undersuit on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @06:15PM (#42705251)
Maybe you should apply HN comment etiquette outside of HN.

>Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

The strongest good faith interpretation of "the CEO must die" is that it is not a call to action for murdering "the CEO". But we'll let the author clarify:

>“The CEO is more than an individual it is a figurehead of the capitalist order,” he wrote. “When we say the ceo must die, we mean the structure of capitalism must be broken.”

Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by idlewords on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @06:45PM (#42705532)
I interpret the author's clarification as backpedaling by someone who enjoyed making an inflammatory statement but didn't want to stand behind it.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by undersuit on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @08:37PM (#42706322)
Who is "the CEO"? Is it all 52? So you have decided from the start to take the uncharitable take.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by EA-3167 on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @06:54PM (#42705595)
I'm pretty sure that if someone posted that here, in the context of making "most wanted" list... they'd be banned.

Good faith is for arguments, not calls to murder.

Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by tptacek on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @06:55PM (#42705610)
You can use the search bar below to see that this is in fact true: this is a quick way to get banned on HN.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by undersuit on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @08:38PM (#42706330)
the CEO must die.

And now we wait.

Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by EA-3167 on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @12:51PM (#42714423)
A stunt like that is precisely why I was clear about the CONTEXT. Note that I'm not encouraging you to actually do it, far from it, but lets not pretend that you're bravely proving a point here.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by undersuit on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:28PM (#42720303)
You're free to ignore the context of a person saying "the CEO must die" after years railing against capitalism. I'm just going to call you out for it.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by EA-3167 on Thursday January 16, 2025 @11:34AM (#42727529)
It seems like you're very selective in your application of the "most charitable take" principle.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by undersuit on Thursday January 16, 2025 @12:56PM (#42728536)
Right back at ya.
Re:Platforms systematically removed a user because he made "... by Amezarak on Tuesday January 14, 2025 @03:04PM (#42703049)
It doesn't. Brandenburg and the related case law is clear on this. "Imminent" doesn't mean "someone else plots to assassinate a CEO and does it four months later." It means right now, like standing in the street pointing to the CEO and shouting to an armed crowd "shoot him!"

Generalized calls to violence are perfectly legal and have been a part of American political culture for centuries. Sometimes it's much hotter than others (the 1960s were pretty hot), but so it goes. I personally wouldn't do it, and I don't agree with these statements or these cards, but people have a right to say it.