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Re: by pkkkzip on Monday January 13, 2025 @02:11PM (#42687366)
Better question might be, What is left?

The comment section I think answers that question very well: angry, myopic, us-vs-them extreme thinking.

I don't agree with the comments attacking PG because he isn't politically aligned anymore with far left views that in the recent decade have become the loudest voice basically every online platform.

HN used to be my favorite place to discuss ideas but it has also shifted to the same toxic far left hub that Reddit has become, quick to censor, bully and label anyone who doesn't agree with their collective political views.

I didn't really pay attention to Paul but I think its funny so many people are shifting their political views publicly. Many of us have endured far worse, being called Nazis, anti-[ism] and our voice was suppressed.

Platforms like Meta are realizing that the bulk of the people on the center are shifting away from the far left messaging that has been the default. Platforms like X are exploding with user growth for a good reason.

All in all, I think we'll look back at the decade of wokeness with a mix of loathing and bewilderment, especially true for future generations. Of course there will be those that will go down with the ship but that would be their own making.

Re: by elktown on Monday January 13, 2025 @04:07PM (#42689338)
> with far left views that in the recent decade have become the loudest voice basically every online platform. > the same toxic far left hub that Reddit has become > shifting away from the far left messaging that has been the default

That entire post has left reality a long time ago. Honestly, this level of resentment can't be healthy.

> angry, myopic, us-vs-them extreme thinking.

You've clearly become what you're (allegedly) so vehemently against.

Re: by kelseyfrog on Monday January 13, 2025 @03:41PM (#42688906)
> Many of us have endured far worse, being called Nazis, anti-[ism]

Dear responder, your handle has KKK in it. If you prefer to be called something else, that's a strange way of going about it.

Re: by s1artibartfast on Monday January 13, 2025 @05:03PM (#42690047)
interesting example of the whole phenomenon. presumption of guilt and sentencing and dismissal without any evidence of wrongdoing.
Re: by kelseyfrog on Monday January 13, 2025 @06:08PM (#42690811)
Parent requested not to be called names; had KKK in their username. Is this bizarro world? Please explain. I'm really not getting it.

It reads like, "ProudBigot123: Please stop calling me a bigot!"

Re: by s1artibartfast on Monday January 13, 2025 @07:04PM (#42691370)
I think that many people, perhaps the majority, would not draw that connection or jump to that conclusion. For myself, it seems paranoid and delusional, moreso due to your certainly. It speaks of being primed with a hair trigger to suss out and accuse people. Based on our past conversation, I know that you have deep seated emotional responses to ideas around social justice and race, and view the world and very extreme and binary terms. This is not everyone's lived experience.

Kinda like if I assumed you aware a Nazi based on your username including frog, in reference to Pepe the right wing hate symbol.

Re: by kelseyfrog on Monday January 13, 2025 @07:13PM (#42691492)
Thank you for explaining! I appreciate it
Re: by lyu07282 on Monday January 13, 2025 @03:48PM (#42689017)
I think it's best to understand it in terms of entirely different separate realities that define political ideologies nowadays, like it's not just that I disagree with you, we don't even share the same plane of existence anymore. Like for example conservatives love to call Biden a marxist/far-leftist — it's incomprehensible gibberish to me, it goes against everything I believe to know about reality, but it probably makes a lot of sense to you, you might even agree with the statement. It's not a disagreement in the traditional sense, it's not something we could talk about and reach some sort of mutual understanding.

The same is true with people using the term "woke", to describe something they believe exists and is a great danger somehow, the most important political struggle of our times even perhaps. And you're right, in your perception of reality it really is scary and worth fighting against. It's just that I believe you are living in a dangerous, delusional fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. That's why finding common ground is pretty much impossible unfortunately.

Like one time I saw a conservative calling the world economic forum a far-left institution, I really don't think a productive conversation between leftists, liberals and conservatives is even possible at this point.