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Re:Finland's Zero Homeless Strategy: Lessons from a Success ... by dns_snek on Saturday January 11, 2025 @07:08AM (#42665338)
I don't care about growth, nor do most people I know. We don't need to endlessly consume to be happy. The world won't end when this economic system unravels either, it's not the first and it won't be the last one to fail.
Re:Finland's Zero Homeless Strategy: Lessons from a Success ... by throw5959 on Saturday January 11, 2025 @11:55AM (#42667131)
Lol, you have no idea what you're talking about. I lived through the collapse of the Soviet Union. You don't want to live like that.
Re:Finland's Zero Homeless Strategy: Lessons from a Success ... by lostlogin on Saturday January 11, 2025 @12:48PM (#42667530)
It was massive turmoil for sure, but world didn’t end (I’m referencing your earlier comment, not downplaying the devastating fall). How would continual growth work? We will run out of everything.
Re:Finland's Zero Homeless Strategy: Lessons from a Success ... by throw5959 on Saturday January 11, 2025 @12:57PM (#42667623)
We are not limited to Earth.
Re:Finland's Zero Homeless Strategy: Lessons from a Success ... by lostlogin on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @01:25AM (#42707962)
What planet are you on?

Yes we are.

Re:Finland's Zero Homeless Strategy: Lessons from a Success ... by epistasis on Saturday January 11, 2025 @07:01PM (#42669980)
Continual growth is possible in at least two ways:

1) standard sigmoids, which never stop growing yet are also finite

2) standard ecological growth, where growth is never ending but so is death. This is much more typical of systems like capitalism than sigmoids growth. New upstarts experience exponential growth for a whole, then peak, and then die.

Of course be careful of mentioning these standard scientific observations around those in the degrowth cult, as the cognitive dissonance may cause an unpleasant explosion.