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Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by nottorp on Thursday January 09, 2025 @06:05AM (#42644070)
Yes but at this price it competes with machines with real nvme storage and upgradeable ram.

And it’s not even low power any more.

Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by teamonkey on Thursday January 09, 2025 @06:53AM (#42644352)
2W idle isn't low-power?
Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by nottorp on Thursday January 09, 2025 @07:36AM (#42644669)
It requires active cooling doesn't it...
Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by smurfdaddy on Thursday January 09, 2025 @08:31AM (#42645222)
I've had good luck with entirely passive cooling for a pi5. It was 12 bucks for a the osb cnc aluminum version. https://www.digikey.com/en/blog/edatecs-two-fan-less-cnc-cas...
Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by klibertp on Thursday January 09, 2025 @09:15AM (#42645734)
Pi 4, depending on the environment, also needed active cooling, in my experience. Especially in summer, with room temperature above 28*C, it couldn't handle any load until I added a fan. (The good thing about it was that I could control the fan with PWM easily - it was fun :))
Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by nottorp on Thursday January 09, 2025 @11:08AM (#42646977)
But the Pi 3 didn't. You'd think with the process improvements they'll be able to have more performance in the same heat envelope, but they want to do their own Pentium IV...
Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by rbanffy on Thursday January 09, 2025 @04:38PM (#42650040)
Process improvements can only go that far - register banks, speculative execution, instruction reordering, many execution units and so on use power, but are needed because the processor can be faster, but the memory is still much slower.
Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by nottorp on Friday January 10, 2025 @08:34AM (#42655455)
I'd agree except the laptop i'm typing this on seems to use 4.5 W right now, the whole system :)

I don't expect Apple like power/performance ratio from everyone, but they could at least try...

Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by justin66 on Thursday January 09, 2025 @09:53AM (#42646211)
No, it does not.
Re:New 16GB Raspberry Pi 5 on sale now at $120 by rbanffy on Thursday January 09, 2025 @10:55AM (#42646841)
The Pi500, which is essentially the same hardware, works with passive cooling.

Active coolers exist to fit within the tiny footprint. If you have the space, you can go with passive cooling or a cooling case (essentially a large heatsink).