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Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by blueflow on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @08:18AM (#42633873)
Bonus points: Have Windows ruin your current shooter session by downloading system updates in the background.
Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by pmarreck on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @08:36AM (#42634049)
I think they actually fixed that with Gaming Mode or whatever.

Even worse when a modal dialog used to pop up over your game... the way Windows used to constantly interrupt whatever you were trying to focus on drove me nuts (this never happened on macOS or Linux) but I think they also finally fixed that

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by high_na_euv on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @08:34AM (#42634021)
I cannot think about single time it happened, like seriously

Maybe you are using wifi like majority of gamers and blame the wrong thing?

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by blueflow on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @08:50AM (#42634173)
I'm not accepting your implied premise: That Windows is allowed to use the scarce resources in a way that interferes with the User activity.

This is independent of where the resource limit is.

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by high_na_euv on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:13AM (#42635069)
No, I suggest that there was no update at all and the lags were caused by wifi
Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by blueflow on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:23AM (#42635145)
The update gives itself away by the "Update and Reboot" button appearing half an hour later.
Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by high_na_euv on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:47AM (#42635397)
If you are sure that it was Windows, then you can also disable it
Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by tasuki on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @02:40PM (#42637681)
> Maybe you are using wifi like majority of gamers and blame the wrong thing?

What does that mean? For most people, the wi-fi is not the limiting factor for internet speed.

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by BlueTemplar on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @06:32PM (#42639725)
Sure, but "most people" is a low bar : "most people" probably can't even afford a computer with a dedicated graphics card either : the median per-capita household income is only $2,920 per year.

As for most people with a less than a decade old dedicated graphics card : I actually do believe that WiFi is a limiting factor for Internet speed.

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by high_na_euv on Friday January 10, 2025 @04:59PM (#42660766)
Internet speed is irrelevant

Packet drops and ping spikes are the problem

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by kazinator on Friday January 10, 2025 @05:09PM (#42660832)
Packet drops are not entirely separable from speed. One reason packets get dropped is congestion, and speed obviously helps with congestion, since it is an important determiner of capacity.

But, indeed, the speed of an uncongested hop is irrelevant, in that it could slower by some factor, yet without it making a difference to the packet loss.

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by dageshi on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @08:36AM (#42634045)
I Pause updates for 7 days and run the updates on a sunday morning

Windows gotta update sometime

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by danparsonson on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @09:04AM (#42634314)
Windows used to let the user choose when they wanted to update - that they force it to happen now is a situation entirely of their own doing.
Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by dageshi on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:05AM (#42634983)
Yeah cause people just skipped installs forever.

That's the reason.

And as I said, you can run it once a week and control when it happens.

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by e3bc54b2 on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:51PM (#42641426)
People skipped updates for a reason.

Windows updates are slow as fuck, take forever to download, then forever to install, take your CPU, hog your storage and require multiple boots and MUST be finished after started.

On everyLinux distro I've used, updates were single command/click at most, downloaded in the background, cleaned up from storage automatically, never used much CPU and rarely 'required' reboot.

Yes my Linux distro is updated twice a week and Windows was deleted after being out of ~updates~ use for 6 months, why do you ask?

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by danparsonson on Sunday January 12, 2025 @09:35AM (#42673810)
That's also my choice. If I don't service my car every year then no-one comes to take it away from me and do the servicing anyway.

And sure, the average person won't make sensible decisions for their own good about updates, so forcing them can be a reasonable default, but it should still be possible to override those settings. It's my computer.

As for choosing when to do it, maybe that's possible (although it's not been my experience tbh) but that all falls apart when, for example, an aged relative switches on their computer once a month to do one specific simple task and ends up having to wait two hours while their bargain basement machine grinds to a halt force-updating itself because it's past the update grace period.

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by diggan on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @09:32AM (#42634633)
> Windows gotta update sometime

For some people, sure. But to force it upon people without any way of skipping it? Kind of disrespectful to control people's computer usage like that when we're talking about "personal computers".

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by dageshi on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:04AM (#42634966)
People are idiots.

They will just continue to skip forever and never update then blame Microsoft when their machine gets pwned because it wasn't updated.

You're free of course to install another OS on your "personal computer".

Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by diggan on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:06AM (#42634986)
Or, Microsoft could let people chose when to update, so the ones who have to use Windows (like myself) can continue to do so without having to deal with their continued bullshit.
Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by blueflow on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @08:55AM (#42634222)
How can i do this?
Re:Bye-bye Windows gaming? SteamOS officially expands past t... by dageshi on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:00AM (#42634917)
It's an option in windows update (for me at least, Win 10)

There's a button called "Pause updates for 7 days"

I run windows update on a sunday then hit the button again when it's done. Works pretty well.