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Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by Dalewyn on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @09:25AM (#42622614)
Fact Checker is merely a politically correct name for a Ministry of Truth, and there are as many truths as there are people with opinions. I wholeheartedly agree and support any and all movements and actions removing them; people should critically think for themselves instead of begging someone to program them.

Incidentally: A "fact" is an immutable facet of the world itself, whether we can even acknowledge it properly or not. Facts don't need checkers.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by tzs on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:29AM (#42623375)
> Incidentally: A "fact" is an immutable facet of the world itself, whether we can even acknowledge it properly or not. Facts don't need checkers.

The term "fact checker" does not mean someone who checks that facts are true. It means someone who checks that what someone claims is a fact is in fact a fact.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by Vampiero on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @09:28AM (#42622650)
A fact can be verified. Someone with the necessary knowledge to verify a fact is a fact checker in that particular domain of facts. They are not infallible though, let alone unbiased; even though the facts themselves are immutable and, well, factual.

That said I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment on critical thought. It should be everyone's duty to verify facts for themselves but... consider how many people are functionally illiterate in the world. They wouldn't be able to verify even simple facts, because they lack the mental framework to do so (i.e. reading comprehension). And also consider how much of a burden it is to individually verify every single claim that is made, and compare it to how easy it is to make wild claims. It would be impossible to navigate the modern world without a group of dedicated fact checkers that you trust. You can't be an expert on everything -- and if you think you are, that means precisely that you are NOT.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by coding123 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @09:37AM (#42622778)
I think a more simple solution is to expose every person to let's say Matt Walsh, Tim Pool or Charlie Kirks explanation/opinion as well as Don Lemon, Destiny and Cenk Uyger and see where they land.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by nathanaldensr on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @09:37AM (#42622774)
Sadly, everyone is having to relearn from first principles why diversity is often not a strength. Social cohesion has value, and that value often eclipses an ideological need for diversity (read: we are all the same or equal).
Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by niemandhier on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @09:53AM (#42622963)
Social cohesion is probably stronger influenced by wealth disparity than diversity.

The top 10% of the us population own more than 60% of the countries wealth.

In the US about a third of this disparity is due to inheritance.

https://academic.oup.com/oep/article/74/3/643/6414507

Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by yhg56fgniyfv on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @03:06PM (#42626792)
> Social cohesion is probably stronger influenced by wealth disparity than diversity.

That's not what I've seen, anecdotally. In school, university, and work places, the friend groups I've observed and been a part of have primarily aligned around racial groups.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by niemandhier on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:52PM (#42628049)
American schools, unis and workplaces probably already select for equal socio economic status to a degree.

Just some food for thought: How is the ratio of blue collar / white collar kids in your peer group? How close are you / were you in percentile distance?

No one caress for race in my environment, but even as a student somehow everybody I hang out with had the same amount of money.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg: Fact-checking on Meta is too "politicall... by charlieyu1 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:34PM (#42627841)
A fact can be verified. They don’t verify facts for censorship though. They act netural that suddenly pulls the “Cooperates can do whatever they want” card when things don’t align with their interests.