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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by dang on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:47PM (#42616309)
Your account has been breaking the site guidelines badly in this thread. Would you please stop? Regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are, It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

We've had to ask you this before not long ago, so it would be good if you would review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and please fix this.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by cmrdporcupine on Monday January 06, 2025 @05:02PM (#42616475)
dang, it would help if you would clarify which guideline I'm violating.

I see a lot of deep flame bait in this thread. A lot of it by people of another country, making claims about my own for partisan and ideological purposes. Context here is important given news in recent weeks, with Trudeau's name on the lips of people like Trump, Musk, etc.

I have a "karma" of almost 20,000 and have been on hackernews for a very long time at this point. I'm sure my passion is showing through, but it feels odd given my citizenship and past here, to single me out.

There are some issues which trigger emotional response. I usually don't get into the back and forth response, but this is a seriously frustrating thread and I think if you're not ready for the level of passionate vitriol this topic (we have people driving around with bumper stickers reading "F* Trudeau" and this whole topic is tied in with COVID, vaccines, etc. etc.) will unleash, it's best to lock or flag this whole topic.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by dredmorbius on Monday January 06, 2025 @08:30PM (#42618224)
If I could venture, it's general tone (verging on polemical), and this specific swipe: "and you think we're somehow an anomaly".

You might also want to review your flagged comments on thread.

Among those, predicting downvotes and characterising the HN readership and/or opposition specifically goes against guidelines.

You can review previous interactions with dang here:

<https://news.ycombinator.com/replies?id=cmrdporcupine&by=dan...>

(There's an admonishment or two in there, take them seriously.)

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by dang on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @07:53PM (#42629668)
I'm sorry I couldn't respond to this earlier! I got started on a reply and then ended up on a flight with no wifi.

> it would help if you would clarify which guideline I'm violating

I know, and I wish I had the cycles to clarify this in every case. It's just not physically possible. If you look at the first paragraph of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42629499, I wrote a longer explanation about this for a different user who was asking the same thing (...albeit in a rather less polite way).

> I have a "karma" of almost 20,000 and have been on hackernews for a very long time at this point

Yes and that's why I don't want to ban you, as I said here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42073831.

> I see a lot of deep flame bait in this thread.

Me too, which is why I spent hours moderating it and posted 20 or so requests to people to stop, as well as a general admonition at the top of the thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616355.

> A lot of it by people of another country, making claims about my own for partisan and ideological purposes.

Such perceptions aren't reliable. Internet readers tend to back-fit such perceptions to their assumptions about who would be holding a given position and why; but these assumptions are frequently contradicted by the data. Unfortunately it's not data that we can publish without violating people's privacy. I can tell you, though, that many commenters opposing your views were posting from Canadian IP addresses and many commenters supporting your views were posting from IP addresses outside Canada. That's not a perfect indicator but it's clear to me that this argument breaks down on ideological lines, not national lines.

> it feels odd given my citizenship and past here, to single me out

You were in no way being singled out, and certainly not given your citizenship (which incidentally I share). If you look through my other posts in this thread (not that I recommend it), you'll see how many other admonishments I posted. We're as careful as we know how to be to moderate HN based on the site guidelines, not people's views, let alone their background, nationality, or anything like that.

There were tons of other users breaking the site guidelines in this thread, but it wasn't physically possible to get to them all. Unfortunately people tend to jump to the conclusion that when they see a bad post going unmoderated, it means the mods must secretly agree with it. Nothing could be further from true, and the likeliest reason is just that we didn't see it.

> There are some issues which trigger emotional response.

Indeed there are. The question then is how well we can manage our emotional responses. Commenters here are asked to do that regardless of how wrong others are or one feels they are. If you (<-- I don't mean you personally, of course, but all of us) can't do that without remaining respectful to others, it's best to wait until your activation has settled to the point when you can. That's not easy, of course.

[editing - bear with me...]