Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime minister

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by jknoepfler on Monday January 06, 2025 @01:59PM (#42614040)

You do not, and never will, have a right to be a vector for a lethal virus in a crowded urban area. If that's where you draw the line on authoritarianism, I think your values are probably deeply confused.

If by some accident of foolish politics we established a government in which we had such a right, that right would immediately conflict with and require reconciliation with the right to life, and require adjudication in whatever body we establish to handle contradictory rights.

I have no idea how something that is intrinsically legally, ethically, and morally grey has been translated into black and white "muh rights" talk so consistently and without any apparent attempt at reflection.

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by mardifoufs on Monday January 06, 2025 @02:13PM (#42614240)

So, I guess you wanted to use emergency powers on the protestors of June 2020 too?

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by segasaturn on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:10PM (#42615083)

The BLM protestors in 2020 were cracked down on by the police, often violently, so I'm not sure what your point is.

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by mardifoufs on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:21PM (#42615239)

Yes, I know since I was part of the protests back then. But there's an incredibly big difference between cracking down on a protest and invoking emergency powers.

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by busterarm on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:35PM (#42615408)

Where? In my city the government paid to have Black Lives Matter written on the streets in paint and then arrested people for driving over it...

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by segasaturn on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:54PM (#42615672)

Symbolic actions like painting "BLM" on a street are cute and all, but that doesn't mean they supported the protests. In fact, the cities such as New York and Chicago had some of the most violent suppression of protests by their police forces, despite loudly claiming to support BLM. Actions ultimately speak louder than words.

Read for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_violence_incide...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#United_S...

> At least 200 cities in the U.S. had imposed curfews by early June 2020, while more than 30 states and Washington, D.C., activated over 96,000 National Guard and State Guard service members.[33][34][35][36] The deployment constituted the largest military operation other than war in U.S. history.[37]

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by E39M5S62 on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:01PM (#42615753)

That seems pretty outlandish. Are you able to provide a source for that?

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by labster on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:24PM (#42615273)

In America, we didn’t need emergency powers to shoot BLM protesters. Or Civil Rights protesters, or the unarmed veterans of the Bonus Army, or union members — historically it’s fine to shoot protesters.

Conservatives are just snowflakes because it happened to their guys just one time.

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by bitwize on Monday January 06, 2025 @02:20PM (#42614337)

BLM protestors were masking and social distancing. They were doing the right things wrt COVID.

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by mardifoufs on Monday January 06, 2025 @02:32PM (#42614535)

Okay, so if I show you an example of a protest with people that weren't masking or social distancing, you'd be in favor of using emergency powers against protestors that were protesting for racial justice?

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by baggy_trough on Monday January 06, 2025 @02:21PM (#42614358)

Hilarious! Not the ones I saw.

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by slaw on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:05PM (#42615806)

Did you miss? /s

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by nradov on Monday January 06, 2025 @02:11PM (#42614217)

No one has the right to be protected against infectious disease. Such a right has never existed. Freedom of movement is more important than safety. People who are afraid of a minor respiratory virus with a >99% survival rate are free to hide out at home or whatever.

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by razakel on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:17PM (#42615957)

>Freedom of movement is more important than safety.

Tell that to Typhoid Mary.

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