Dude a group of them were found with guns and pipe bombs, and were charged with conspiracy to murder an RCMP officer.

And those weren't the people that got their rights suspended by emergency powers, so what's your point?

According to that logic, the protestors during the Oka Crisis should've just been arrested, stripped of their rights and treated like non citizens since they were armed and threatened the police. Yet a better government back then realized that you can't just use emergency powers for every inconvenience, and didn't use them. They instead talked and engaged in discussions with them, which resolved the Oka Crisis peacefully.

> peacefully

Well, apart from the fighting and that young woman who was bayoneted while carrying her infant sister.

I’m not here to carry water for the asshat truckers, and I don’t understand the Canadian constitution or legal system, but the Oka Crisis was resolved with enough brutality for at least one crow pie.

Ok, I agree to be honest. I shouldn't have said peacefully, but rather without the emergency powers hammer.

In fact, the federal government tried appeasement whereas the provincial government was more brutal.

All 20?

Also, is this like when the FBI discovers a plot to kidnap a Governor and half of the conspirators are paid FBI informants?

What does "law" mean to you? Do the "Emergency acts" not count as law in your opinion?

It counts as farce. The law literally as passed states that the law itself is not capable of dealing with the situation, so it is law to deal with the situation.

It's a clear sign that your government is failing its responsibilities. The US has done it too.

Your government is with a straight face telling you that it doesn't legitimately have enough control over you so it needs to create extra-legal means of having control over you.

It's tyranny. There's a reason these acts only can get passed in war time. The population is too busy pissing its pants to realize when it's getting shafted.

> you should be glad that we're just speaking to each other over the internet

You may want to take a step back from the keyboard.

I'm perfectly calm. It's the people with pitchforks screaming about how horn honking is terrorism who have a problem.

The comment I responded to sounded like a threat. If that wasn’t your intention it may benefit from being reworded.

> how horn honking is terrorism

They conspired to murder police officers [1]. That goes far beyond honking horns.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_alleged_plot_to_kill_Cout...

In war there are no rights. Once you cross the line from peacef protestor to terrorist going to kill people/cops, the saying goes “fuck your rights”

So all you need is a politician to declare the opposition party to be terrorist and you can do whatever you want?

That's incredibly convenient for people who have no qualms labeling their political opposition as "terrorists".

Even people charged with actual violent crimes still have access to their money. Funds seizure is a while other level of fucked up.

Flamebait like this will get you banned here, regardless of how right you are or feel you are.

No more of this, please—it just leads to predictable, tedious internet hell.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42612168.

Edit: we've had to warn you about this kind of thing for years:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32890469 (Sept 2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30334539 (Feb 2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19946008 (May 2019)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17660350 (Aug 2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16545769 (March 2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13900218 (March 2017)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9983880 (July 2015)

Edit 2: you've posted 3 dozen comments in this thread, breaking the site guidelines left and right. WTF? I don't want to ban you (obviously, having cut you almost 10 years of slack already) but this is beyond the pale. You've been here for 12 years and ought to be a much better citizen of this place. First and foremost, that has to do with how you treat people (and positions) that you disagree with. If you want to keep posting to Hacker News, please fix this once and for all.

dang, if I'm really making your job that much more difficult when you have 9 comments out of tens of thousands across 12 years, do what pleases you brother. Nevermind that you're grossly mischaracterizing most of my other substantive and contextually-appropriate comments in other areas of the thread.

Are you giving me so much slack or the people who uncritically tout fascistic, totalitarian ideas like "non-violent protestors should be labeled as terrorists and stripped of their rights using wartime emergency powers"? In any polite environment with serious, considered thinkers this should be met with derision but viewpoints like that consistently go unchallenged by moderation here. This was even called out by other posters on one of your linked threads where you moderated me on literally this exact same topic.

The "Good Germans" comment isn't flamebait, it's just the most succinct way of wording such opinions for what they are. To suggest and encourage such actions and overreach and even that it was that PM's most popular political action very much suggests that they are Good Germans. And if that type of disgusting rhetoric is supposed to be treated civily here on HN, maybe HN are Good Germans too. If that's the type of place this is, I don't want to be here.

I honestly don't think that you have the proper perspective to moderate sensitive political topics. "Be Nice and Follow the Rules" doesn't work against people who color within the lines while advocating for extralegal authority to deny people access to "the Rules".

Maybe HN guidelines need a wartime emergency powers guideline...

It's true that some of your 3 dozen comments in this thread were fine, but you were still breaking the site guidelines in many places. Here are some obvious examples:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42615237

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42613907

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42613574

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42613325

No one who has read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and wants to use HN as intended should be posting such things. These are not borderline cases. The fact that some of your other posts were fine doesn't make it ok, any more than helping old ladies cross the street makes it ok to rob banks. I wish it were otherwise, but moderation has to go by bad deeds, not good deeds.