edit: over the totality of history, tens of millions at a minimum
To me a vaccine denier is no different, at all, from a North Korean public affairs official weaving tales of Kim Jong Un's exploits except the North Korean is responsible for fewer deaths and less overall harm to humanity.
They are the same as a scammer telling you that a hologram sticker stuck to a plastic wristband will cure your disease.
They are the same as Bernie Madoff sliding a monthly statement from across the table to in front of you, smiling, and saying "look how good you did last month".
But we have freedumb, so yay?
You're just advocating for tyranny "in the name of good", because you see your own flavor of tyranny being well intended and for the greeter good, which is exactly how Hitler and other dictators in history got to power, oppressed caused suffering of minorities.
Throughout history they all though their tyranny was in the name of good, that they were the good guys on the right side of history and that their ends justified the means, they didn't call themselves "the party of evil guys who wear cool hats" but they called themselves the "national socialistic party" fighting for the workers and the common man. How did that turn out?
The road to hell is always paved with good intentions.
They did in Australia, and they did save a lot of lives.
The USA had 1,219,487 deaths for 346.4 million people (3520 deaths per million) [1]
Australia had 24,414 deaths for 26.8 million people (910 deaths per million) [1]
If Australia had the same rate of deaths as the USA, then 94,336 people would have died from covid. Therefore Australia's "draconian" COVID policies saved the lives of 69,900 people, which is 0.26% of the entire population.
Anyone who doesn't like this should think about which members of their immediate family they want included in that 70,000 deaths.
If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
What exactly was flamewar about posting that countries of people aren't guinea pig cages? Go on, enlighten me please. What rule did that comment break? Did you even read my comment or are you swinging your hammer based on people abusing the flag button?
In your case, I wasn't just responding to one comment but to your pattern of commenting; note the word "repeatedly" in my post. That's a reference to other comments like these, from the current thread:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42612466
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42612129
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42612019
... as well as sundry others from other theads; here are some recent examples:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42604263
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42565173
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42560453
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42543675
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42493547
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42472874
Your pattern of commenting includes inflammatory rhetoric, being aggressive to other users, cross-examination, name-calling, political and ideological battle, sneering at the rest of the community, and other things that clearly break the HN guidelines–and that's just with your current account.
It's true that your comment that I replied to (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42612748) was one of the lesser cases of this, but it still included inflammatory rhetoric ("and if my mom had balls she's be my dad" adds no information—it's just a putdown, and ditto for "America, Australia, Canada, Europe etc, aren't interchangeable lab cages of guinea pigs", since no one is arguing that they are). But the rest of that comment was just fine. The reason I replied there is not because I thought it was the worst case, but because it was a leaf node in the thread. The issue, as I said, is the pattern of your comments. You're breaking the site guidelines so often that your account is on the line of being one that we would ban, if not over the line.
Wait, are people that shocked that their democratic governments are wiling to act like mobsters/dictators against a minority group just to get their way and appease a majority, when the history books are full of such examples? People must have a short memory then and why history repeating itself is a fact.