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Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by sbuttgereit on Saturday January 04, 2025 @10:33PM (#42599546)
It is wholly appropriate for a government act to protect it's citizens' rights including their property rights. Fraud and theft violate those rights.

Your arguments are essentially shifting blame from the fraudster to the victim... not unlike the kind of arguments that suggest certain rapes or murders are also the victim's fault for either dressing suggestively or travelling through the wrong part of town at the wrong time. While those things may actually be unwise, that the victim didn't act with wisdom or prescience doesn't relieve the perpetrator of culpability nor make the victim deserving of such violation. Wisdom merely dictates that it might be better for you to avoid the risk of becoming a victim if you can.

I personally don't engage in these kinds of financial instruments because I feel the risks are pretty high.... but I absolutely applaud the government pursuing a fraudster where ever they can... without regard to the wisdom, or foolishness, of the victim.

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by ty6853 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @10:39PM (#42599575)
Yes and the government is defrauding me claiming this is effective governance and stealing from me to lock these guys up. They are violating my property rights in extraditing kwon.

You are victim blaming me for being unhappy with this.

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by Rodeoclash on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:09PM (#42599693)
This is an astounding level of "logical" jumps.

As for why the government is doing this, it's very beneficial for the US to demonstrate its long arm of the law as a lesson to other criminals.

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by ty6853 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:29PM (#42599773)
Is it? There is a Korean poster bragging here about how happy they are to have offloaded kwon to the US for a free ride on us since they are too lazy to mete out full punishment of people operating on their turf.

We are a laughing stock. Dump your criminals on the US taxpayers to play world police.

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by yongjik on Sunday January 05, 2025 @12:19AM (#42599947)
I assume you're talking about my post. If you understood it as "Koreans are laughing at the US," then you need to work on your English comprehension skill.
Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by ty6853 on Sunday January 05, 2025 @12:42AM (#42600008)
I understood it as Korean common taxpayer being the real benefactor over the US common taxpayers, since Koreans can shirk the cost of punishing their own and offload it on me while still maintaining the moral high ground since they have a loftier sounding reason for not wanting to foot the bill.
Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by jjulius on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:43PM (#42599833)
>Yes and the government is defrauding me...

>You are victim blaming me...

I think someone needs to go for a walk.

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by ty6853 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:52PM (#42599862)
Someone out there defrauded someone else, only by the greatest stretch did this even occur in even the same country I inhabit. Therefore I must agree to paying to lock up and internationally fly the perpetrator for something that happened in the other hemisphere for a transaction i am in no way connected to,or else I am a victim blamer who needs to take a walk.

I'm not crazy, this world is.

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by jjulius on Sunday January 05, 2025 @12:43AM (#42600012)
You could take this general concept and apply it to literally any criminal prosecution you disagree with or may feel "disconnected from", domestically or internationally.

There are people who feel that a wrong should be righted, and there are those who may disagree. That's okay. Nobody is crazy for disagreeing. But that's what happens in this sorta system - sometimes, people think money is wasted if it's something that they disagree with. There will never be a way to make everyone agree with every prosecution, or use of tax dollars.

C'est la vie.

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by ty6853 on Sunday January 05, 2025 @12:52AM (#42600036)
I would prefer something more akin to voluntarily funded prosecutions and jailing when they are extraterritorial. That way everyone who pays for something that happened outside where we even have representation at least agrees to it, since we have no real vote on the extraterritorial civil environment.
Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by jjulius on Sunday January 05, 2025 @01:51AM (#42600211)
Okay.
Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by miki123211 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:34PM (#42599791)
Would you also e.g. applaud Iran trying to extradite you if you watched a pornographic recording of an Iranian woman, even if recorded with her consent?

Would you applaud China for trying to extradite you for "spreading unrest and destabilizing the political situation in the country", AKA posting a meme offensive to their regime?

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by jjulius on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:39PM (#42599813)
These are terrible comparisons.
Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by s5300 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:44PM (#42599837)
>> Would you also e.g. applaud Iran trying to extradite you if you watched a pornographic recording of an Iranian woman

Given the fact that I find Iranian women to be extremely hot, and that the country from which I hail has enough nukes to turn that entire desert into glass – No.

Re:Do Kwon pleads not guilty to US fraud charges in $40B cry... by mu53 on Sunday January 05, 2025 @12:19AM (#42599948)
These are bizarrely different situations. The USG has jurisdiction given the definition of fraud, the role of the SEC, and how the company Terraform Labs was formed and operated.

If you don't think so, can you explain why not?