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Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Thursday January 02, 2025 @08:27PM (#42581150)
I suppose it depends on a person. I am pretty sure the more money I have started to make throughout my life the happier I have become. Simply because of having more freedom over how I spend my time. I feel like there is almost infinite amount of things to do in this World, I just wish I was able to 24/7 do those things. I don't have enough to not work for rest of my life, but I have been able to buy my own apartment, house, which has given me a lot of confidence in my self and feelings of freedom. I started out with no connections or education though.

I am sure it can be different for everyone, people see the World differently.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by david-gpu on Thursday January 02, 2025 @09:43PM (#42581705)
All that sounds sadly familiar. Once you cross the threshold of not having to work for a living, the illusion fades away.

You are still you, your problems are still there, you are still bound to a slowly decaying body, there's no GAME OVER banner and credit roll proving that you have won the game of life. Because you haven't. Hah.

You can of course keep yourself entertained with all sorts of stupid stuff that doesn't actually matter. Or you can accept that there are still only a handful of things that bring people contentment, and you don't need to be financially independent to do any of them. I'm talking about bland obvious stuff like spending some time with loved ones (including pets and plants), going out for a walk in the park, etc. Unsurprisingly, a ton of retirees do just that. It's not because they are old and can't do anything else, it's because they have finally figured out what works.

And it's not like doing five times as much of that stuff is going to make you five times happier, either. Anybody with a full time job can carve out some quality time instead of arguing with strangers online.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by naming_the_user on Thursday January 02, 2025 @09:52PM (#42581791)
It's also the case that having enough money not to work makes it very simple to engage in self destructive behaviour.

If you have a 9 to 5 then you're waking up at sunrise and going to bed some time after sunset. You're probably commuting, getting out in the world, chatting to people even if it's just the colleagues, Starbucks drive through, supermarket checkout clerk, that sort of thing.

If you have retirement level money and you're alone there is absolutely nothing stopping you from waking up at 2pm, sitting on your computer playing World of Warcraft ordering takeaways, not going out for a walk or seeing the sunlight, getting slightly more depressed each day in a spiral.

There's also nothing stopping you from going out drinking every day or every other of the week, shrugging off the hangover then hitting the next one. And so on and so forth.

People easily underestimate how much their sense of well-being is related to simple things like just going for a walk in the sunshine every now and then or eating properly.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by david-gpu on Thursday January 02, 2025 @10:05PM (#42581876)
Yeah, that all hits close to home.

I find that having a daily schedule and trying to stick to it helps. Also, going for small quality of life improvements, trying things out to see what works and what doesn't, such as a different pillow, or replacing some foods with alternatives.

Having free time forces you to deal with all the emotional baggage you have accumulated over the years and it's a bit much, too. I was obsessed with saving money so that my family wouldn't struggle if I became unable to work; as a result, I didn't process the reasons why I had that fear in the first place. My dad became severely disabled when I was in college and it was a very traumatic experience for my family.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by saagarjha on Friday January 03, 2025 @05:51AM (#42584506)
Ouch, that hurt. And I'm not even financially independent!
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:35AM (#42584734)
I have had multiple different life routines. Healthy fit, alcoholic, depression and self pity, video games no life, productivity hacking self help guru following, career climbing, start up attempting. Considering having been through all of these and knowing how each of them feel, I would hope I have enough experience and urge to opt for the healthy fit as baseline. I think it is still much easier to go for it having no work stress in life.
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by alexey-salmin on Friday January 03, 2025 @03:24AM (#42583707)
I think having kids should help a lot. I'm spending around an hour every evening with mine and a few hours during weekends, but neither me nor they feel this is enough. I would also go skiing for 2 weeks every winter with my family and rent a cottage in the countryside for whole summer holidays, but I have neither money nor time to do it.

The irony of the situation is that by the time I earn the money my kids will grow up, leaving me a sad lonely man.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:43AM (#42584780)
One reason why I truly hope I have enough financial independence by the time I have kids. But maybe you can become a good grandpa at some point?
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by alexey-salmin on Friday January 03, 2025 @08:39AM (#42585552)
I gave it some thought and overall I'm happy my kids have happened relatively early. More than money or anything they need your energy and enthusiasm. As much as I complain about the lack of time, I think it's better than lack of energy and stamina. At least that's what I extrapolate from my experience so far.

For example, even between my two children I noticed that with the second one I've had sleeping issues, while with the first one I couldn't understand what "sleepless nights" everyone talks about. Like, a newborn kid at night sleeps 50 minutes out of every hour and so did I at the age of 25, being fresh and well rested in the morning. Didn't work as well at the age 31. Can't really imagine what it must feel after 40. And in general I would prefer healthy sleep over money and time.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by david-gpu on Friday January 03, 2025 @01:37PM (#42588274)
> More than money or anything they need your energy and enthusiasm

> I think it's better than lack of energy and stamina. At least that's what I extrapolate from my experience so far

I had children late --essentially retired when my second was born at 40-- and I completely agree: it would have been better to have the last kid before we turned 35. You made the right choice!

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:04PM (#42590434)
Is it because of the energy? At what age did you feel you started to lose this type of energy required? I have been planning around 35, although I don't think I will be completely FI by then.

If it is sleep I guess one potential way for me to deal with it is that my partner goes to sleep earlier, e.g. 9pm and I go around 4am or later, which is what we kind of already do anyway since I am such a night owl. We also sleep in separate rooms, so we could potentially have both deal with the baby at different times. Not sure if anyone has done anything like that?

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by jakupovic on Saturday January 04, 2025 @08:17AM (#42594521)
Don't wait for nothing. Life speeds up past you fast. Also, you never get to FI, as never is enough. So GO ;).
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:10AM (#42595559)
There's other things I might want to do first though, like concern free travel, or side projects, attempt at a start up, etc.

Still I feel like there's a huge difference between having to work vs having knowledge that you have enough that you can sustain a healthy and comfortable lifestyle without having to work, and therefore can opt to choose exactly what you want to work on rather than what might pay the most.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by saagarjha on Friday January 03, 2025 @05:50AM (#42584504)
Like all things, financial independence means it's one of the things you can stop worrying about, and focus on what you think matters. It means you don't have other people telling you what you must do 8 hours of the day. Of course, some very very rich people have decided what they want to do is argue with strangers online. But that's their choice to make ;)
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:27AM (#42584690)
Decaying body might be one of the toughest arguments there, which unless we find a way to stop this, my solution would be to have kids and develop them instead of myself. Since I do like competitive sports and it is kind of hard to accept that at some point I am no longer going to be able to improve.

It may be the case that once I reach complete and comfortable financial independence it will not be all I expected it to be, but right now I don't see myself not appreciating the hell out of it, however I am sure plenty of people have thought they would be happy when reaching X goal and they either weren't or it was fleeting. I do have to say that so far I have come a long way from where I used to be from what I consider a hopeless position.

But there is a difference in my view whether you can walk in the park knowing that you don't have any potentially stressful responsibilities and problems coming up or you are walking in the park and excited about working on a hobby project of yours since you can 100 percent focus on that.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by layer8 on Friday January 03, 2025 @09:18AM (#42585841)
> my solution would be to have kids and develop them instead of myself

I never understood that kind of argument. Your kids will have decaying bodies just the same. You're only recreating what you're trying to escape, in somebody else.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by wing-_-nuts on Friday January 03, 2025 @12:16PM (#42587466)
One (or both?) of you is coming at this from the wrong angle. Faced with limitations, you have to find ways of living with them, working around them, and still living a fulfilling life.

That might mean you cannot travel the same way in retirement that you did in your 20's. That doesn't mean you still can't enjoy it, just that you need to take things slower and be gentler with your body.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by xedrac on Friday January 03, 2025 @12:27PM (#42587589)
Having/raising kids has been the most rewarding and challenging experience of my life. I cannot imagine how meaningless life would be to have all the money in the world and no kids.
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by david-gpu on Friday January 03, 2025 @01:41PM (#42588306)
I couldn't have said it better. It is an immense change for the better and for the worse, and it made us feel like that's when we truly became adults. It's one of those experiences that you can't understand until you go through it.

And I say this as somebody who really did not want the responsibility of raising children.

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:07PM (#42590450)
The other alternative is to find a fountain of youth very soon, or do you have another one?
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by layer8 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:10PM (#42590468)
I don’t think that there is any solution. It is what it is.
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:28PM (#42590620)
Then still better to channel desire to keep developing over to kids, no?
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by layer8 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @08:30AM (#42594581)
Good if it works for you, the reasoning doesn’t work for me, as I stated.
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by jjeaff on Thursday January 02, 2025 @09:18PM (#42581531)
I think that is most people's experience but it only works up to a point. you will get diminishing returns the more money you have until, in some cases, maybe negative returns.
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:41AM (#42584764)
Probably diminishing returns, but sometimes I think there is also selection bias, with ultra rich getting there because of never ending satisfaction, so it is contingent on the type of the human. Satisified person would stop sooner while never satisfied would naturally become the richest.
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by tasuki on Friday January 03, 2025 @02:46PM (#42588835)
> I just wish I was able to 24/7 do those things

Wait, you don't?

Do you have less than 24 hours a day to do things?

Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by mewpmewp2 on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:08PM (#42590453)
A lot of the things I do within those hours are spent on things I don't want to or like to do.
Re:I am rich and have no idea what to do by tasuki on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:54AM (#42595868)
Then don't do them!