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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by 2lazy2pwdmgr on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @08:40PM (#42457471)
The real story is animal ag creates the conditions for selection for more virulent pandemic viruses (and antibiotic resistant bacteria through overuse of the chemically-identical antibiotics given to humans) and yet we don't take the actions necessary to prevent them.
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by fasa99 on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @09:01PM (#42457604)
Well we do take actions i.e. https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2024/07/10/... Literally killing millions of livestock to isolate the spread. Not to say there aren't better ways. Life finds a way. It's hard.
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by 2lazy2pwdmgr on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @09:26PM (#42457762)
That's ineffective action to enable the industry to continue rather than ending it and doing something less dangerous that won't kill millions. Not all motion is progress :rocking horse photo here: - One of Meta's "motivational" posters
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by AlexandrB on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @10:55PM (#42458281)
While you're right, I suspect having the price of meat increase 2-5x will mean that whoever pushes for the elimination of factory farming won't be in power for long enough to "make it stick".
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by alfiedotwtf on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @11:11PM (#42458359)
Plus, people won’t let authorities know their livestock is infected until it spreads further
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by Terr_ on Thursday December 19, 2024 @12:12AM (#42458601)
"If my neighbor is affected too, then they won't be able to undercut me in price later..."

Even if that scenario is very rare, it's interesting to think of how dramatically these discussions would change if we had perfect forensic knowledge for tracing the complex blame/liability.

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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by Aloisius on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @10:19PM (#42458078)
Animal agriculture isn't really required. Just humans coming into contact with animals or droppings will do. See: HIV, SARS, Zika, MARV, etc.

Clearly the solution is to exterminate all other species.

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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by lalalali on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @10:36PM (#42458190)
On progress. 96% achieved for the first opponent group : https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

Round 2 versus insects or viruses?

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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by fransje26 on Thursday December 19, 2024 @05:23AM (#42460151)
We are also on target with our fight against them pesky insects.

https://www.dw.com/en/munich-study-confirms-severe-decline-i...

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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by giarc on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @10:36PM (#42458189)
We are trying our best.
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by tiahura on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @09:46PM (#42457892)
The real story is that bird flu has already completely spread across the country and there’s _1_ serious case.
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by sundaeofshock on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @10:43PM (#42458233)
At one point in 2019, there was just 1 serious case of Covid 19.
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by ifyoubuildit on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @11:25PM (#42458420)
Was that before or after spreading across the whole country?
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by tiahura on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @11:26PM (#42458425)
At that point, it hadn’t spread and there were already tons of serious cases.
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by chrisco255 on Thursday December 19, 2024 @12:27AM (#42458673)
If it's a virus, then antibiotics have no effect.
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by lokar on Thursday December 19, 2024 @12:31AM (#42458687)
I don’t think the comment confused them. Two different and serious problems caused by the same conditions and practices.
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Re:CDC confirms first severe human case of bird flu in U.S. by fnordpiglet on Thursday December 19, 2024 @12:34AM (#42458708)
In fact you could argue antibiotics allows much denser farms and proportionately more viral transmission and therefore more mutation.
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