Cultural Evolution of Cooperation Among LLM Agents

Re:Cultural Evolution of Cooperation Among LLM Agents by ff3wdk on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @11:03AM (#42451628)

That doesn't means anything. Humans are trained on human conversations too. No one is born knowing how to speak or anything about their culture. For cultural emergence tho, you need larger populations. Depending on the population mix you get different culture over time.

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Re:Cultural Evolution of Cooperation Among LLM Agents by stonemetal12 on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @11:49AM (#42452205)

>No one is born knowing how to speak or anything about their culture.

Not really the point though. Humans learn about their culture then evolve it so that a new culture emerges. To show an LLM evolving a culture of its own, you would need to show it having invented its own slang or way of putting things. As long as it is producing things humans would say it is reflecting human culture not inventing its own.

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Re:Cultural Evolution of Cooperation Among LLM Agents by DebtDeflation on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @11:08AM (#42451681)

Train a model on a data set that has had all instances of small talk to close a conversation stripped out and see if the models evolve to add closing salutations.

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Re:Cultural Evolution of Cooperation Among LLM Agents by chefandy on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @11:59AM (#42452301)

This is not my area of expertise. Do these models have an explicit notion of the end of a conversation like they would the end of a text block? It seems like that’s a different scope that’s essentially controlled by the human they interact with.

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Re:Cultural Evolution of Cooperation Among LLM Agents by spookie on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @12:08PM (#42452385)

They're trained to predict the next word, so yes. Now, imagine what is the most common follow-up to "Bye!".

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Re:Cultural Evolution of Cooperation Among LLM Agents by suddenlybananas on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @03:26PM (#42454712)

People are born knowing a lot of things already; we're not a tabula rasa.

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Re:Cultural Evolution of Cooperation Among LLM Agents by ben_w on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @03:57PM (#42455088)

We're not absolutely tabula rasa, but as I understand it, what we're born knowing is the absolute basics of instinct: smiles, grasping, breathing, crying, recognition of gender in others, and a desire to make pillow forts.

(Quite why we all seem to go though the "make pillow forts" stage as young kids, I do not know. Predators in the ancestral environment that targeted, IDK, 6-9 year olds?)

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