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Re:Why conversations are better with four people by wslh on Saturday December 14, 2024 @09:28AM (#42417346)
> 90 years ago in Serve it Forth...

I wish there were a tool that could quickly connect new articles to older ideas, highlighting how much of what seems original today often builds on existing work, or just was mentioned before.

It wouldn't need to be as precise as mathematics or the hard sciences, just probabilistic enough to reveal meaningful connections.

Re:Why conversations are better with four people by jackthetab on Saturday December 14, 2024 @10:04AM (#42417539)
That would be _tres cool_.

Thinking out loud here...That could be like an LLM that is tokenized on ideas as opposed to words/fragments, no?

I'm sure someone has worked on this, but how would a computer extract an idea from a bunch of words (sentences?) ?

Looks like another rabbit hole to add to the list...

Re:Why conversations are better with four people by wslh on Saturday December 14, 2024 @10:37AM (#42417727)
I would say that tracing concepts back to their origins could be a good benchmark for evaluating AI models.

In the context of the article you mentioned, Robin Dunbar’s research and the Max4 Principle are referenced [1], along with a relevant Wikipedia article [2]. Expanding further, one can trace earlier foundational works, such as “The Primary Group as Cooley Defines It” [3], and even earlier sociological contributions by thinkers like Auguste Comte.

As for the “Serve it Forth” answer, I haven’t come across that yet except when, obviously?, I named it explicitly.

[1] https://newcreate.org/max-4-principle/

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_in_small_groups

[3] https://www.jstor.org/stable/4105179

Re:Why conversations are better with four people by hindsightbias on Saturday December 14, 2024 @11:27AM (#42417994)
It could only go back to 1992 or so. For most people, history is whatever is linkable or the 5% of pre-1992 stuff that is popular enough to rate a dead wiki footnote.
Re:Why conversations are better with four people by wslh on Saturday December 14, 2024 @01:51PM (#42418725)
The Google Ngram Viewer indicates that data was indexed well before 1992, even if the resource isn’t publicly accessible [1]. This likely reflects the reality that new content often garners more attention than old content, which doesn’t align with the "pay-per-click" model of monetization.

[1] https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=darwin&year_st...