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Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by acdha on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:24PM (#42393151)
Yes - there’s always some risk of theft, extortion, etc. but this case resonated so strongly because so many Americans have had life-altering insurance denials. One survey I saw had it at 13% of the population saying they knew someone who died because of a denial:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/268094/millions-lost-someone-co...

Whether or not you think that’s fair, that’s a huge number of people with the basis for a serious grudge. Since we’ve made it easier to get guns than healthcare, I’d expect copycats - especially after people see how much it struck a nerve.

Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by reverendsteveii on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:32PM (#42393216)
13% + 1

They didn't cover my grandmother's mammogram

They didn't cover her chemo

They didn't cover the pain and anxiety meds for her palliative care

She died of cancer over the course of two years. Insurance made sure that she couldn't detect it early, treat it, or manage her pain and terror. As far as I'm concerned, they caused her death directly and made it as horrible as possible.

Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by CryptoBanker on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:44PM (#42393319)
> They didn't cover her chemo

How does that happen? AFAIK the ACA mandates coverage for cancer treatment for almost all plans.

Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by acdha on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @05:59PM (#42394001)
I don’t know their situation but common tactics are to deny claims hoping that the patient will either die or find other funding options. This is an entire industry:

https://www.propublica.org/article/cigna-pxdx-medical-health...

https://www.propublica.org/article/evicore-health-insurance-...

This is one example of how hard it can be to fight these fraudulent denials, even for someone with above average resources:

https://www.propublica.org/article/priority-health-michigan-...

Individuals can’t fix these problems at scale: it needs something like a government investigator with subpoena power and the ability to directly fine executives. As long as people make more money by denying care, they’re just going to keep finding ways to do so.

Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by clipsy on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @05:33PM (#42393797)
The government can mandate anything it wants, if insurance companies are allowed to perpetrate mass fraudulent denials then it simply doesn't matter.
Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by Aloisius on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @06:16PM (#42394151)
Just because it mandates coverage doesn't mean it mandates any treatment be provided in every case.

Certain expensive chemo drugs will get denied unless cheaper options are tried first, if they're used off-label or experimental. Some won't be approved until surgery, at too early a stage or if tests don't indicate elevated risk factors.

Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by JohnFen on Thursday December 12, 2024 @10:26AM (#42399918)
The plan may cover it, but that doesn't mean the insurance company won't find a way to deny the claim.
Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by reverendsteveii on Thursday December 12, 2024 @11:10AM (#42400387)
What you do is you deny it over and over and give a confused old woman the run-around until she's so exhausted she decides it's literally easier to die than to continue fighting. Ask me how I know.
Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by dr_kiszonka on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:54PM (#42393421)
> Since we’ve made it easier to get guns than healthcare

This is such a great line! On the bright side, perhaps these big companies will now start lobbying for more reasonable gun laws.

Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by neverartful on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @05:26PM (#42393742)
In the case of United Healthcare's CEO the murderer could have just have easily used a knife. When someone is really intent on killing you, guns are not their only option.
Re:Fear in the C-Suite after UnitedHealthcare CEO gunned down by acdha on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @06:03PM (#42394027)
No, but it makes it much, much easier to do so successfully.