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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by DAGdug on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:16PM (#42381606)
Comment is true of immigrants as a group, but it’s a remarkably heterogeneous pool. When you break immigrants down down into East/South Asians versus White/Jewish versus others, the differences in educational outcomes between these splits is large.
Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by bilbo0s on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:23PM (#42381692)
Yep.

I would go a bit further and say that Asians should be in their own group altogether and not compared to anyone else until the other groups are remediated. They are so far off the scale, especially on the high end, that I'm not sure comparisons help until we can get everyone up to, at least, their neighborhood.

Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by myth_drannon on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:24PM (#42381714)
It's strange to split whites into those two categories since Jews represent a trivially small group, why not Italian/Greek and German/Scandinavian ancestry that is somewhat similar to East/South Asian split?
Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by peterfirefly on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @06:12PM (#42382758)
Ashkenazim have unusually high average IQ scores.

(There is also a North/South divide in Europe but Northern Italy is in the high IQ group.)

Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by dylan604 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:36PM (#42381826)
It's not strange when you hear it as the dog whistle it is
Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by DAGdug on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @06:10PM (#42382738)
This is idiotic. I lumped Whites and Jews into one category (since there is a subset of Jews that don’t consider themselves white), East and South Asians into another. Read more carefully before you cast aspersions.
Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by oblio on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:43PM (#42381903)
Maybe it's meant to be a positive presentation? I remember reading somewhere that Ashkenazis have excellent educational attainment.