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Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by Krutonium on Sunday December 08, 2024 @04:05PM (#42360442)
In Canada, it's outright illegal to sell a burger medium done. If you get caught, your restaurant will be closed for a couple weeks minimum, along with a hefty fine. It must be fully cooked, or not served.
Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by dylan604 on Sunday December 08, 2024 @04:33PM (#42360723)
seriously? No medium well, just straight up well done? So, hockey pucks? Ahh, now it makes sense. It's a law endowed by Canada's love of hockey
Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by dboreham on Sunday December 08, 2024 @04:37PM (#42360774)
It's perfectly possible to cook a burger such that it's not dry but also not raw.
Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by dboreham on Sunday December 08, 2024 @04:37PM (#42360765)
Same in UK. Family members keep asking me when we travel there "will my burger be done right". Uhhh..there's only one kind of doneness for a burger in these parts.
Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by akira2501 on Sunday December 08, 2024 @05:22PM (#42361204)
It's ground beef. The rule is you must cook it to the proper internal temperature. This is reasonable food safety. This simply precludes medium as an option.

If they grind their own meat or use something like ground chuck or ground round you can get it medium.

Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by cma on Sunday December 08, 2024 @07:04PM (#42361880)
Why is ground chuck safer than other ground beef?
Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by evgen on Monday December 09, 2024 @09:52AM (#42366716)
Bacteria contaminates the exposed surface of foods. Pre-ground meat has a _lot_ of surface area exposed so the potential for contamination is high. If you get your meat as a chunk of chuck roast or larger primal cut, follow good food safety practices in how you maintain your workspace, and then grind the chuck and turn it into patties to be grilled the probability for serving a contaminated product is low.

The problem is that this is more expensive and time consuming so almost no one actually does this in a commercial setting. If you tell me you do this when I come over to your home cook-out I will possibly trust you to serve me a burger with some pink in it, but if your restaurant tries to sell a $6 burger that you let someone order medium-rare bad things are going to eventually happen...

Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by BenjiWiebe on Monday December 09, 2024 @11:44AM (#42367779)
For added safety, you can even sear the outside of the cut, then trim the seared part before grinding the rest.
Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by canucker2016 on Monday December 09, 2024 @03:12PM (#42370053)
There are small burger restaurant chains in Canada that grind their meat on the premises. Burger's Priest (they used to tout this, but since the franchising push, this link is the only mention about grinding their own meat - https://www.recipeunlimited.com/en/franchising/burger-priest...) and Holy Chuck Burgers - https://holychuckburgers.com/.

Some meat sellers mechanically tenderize (blading) their cuts of beef. This may cause E.coli on the surface of the beef to enter the interior of the beef. Costco was linked to E.coli cases in 2012 due to this practice. See https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2013/06/has-you...

Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by tomp on Sunday December 08, 2024 @05:48PM (#42361416)
That doesn’t make sense. It’s beef.

If you can serve a steak medium, then you can also grind the steak, cook it medium and serve it.

Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by cma on Sunday December 08, 2024 @07:05PM (#42361886)
Then you get bacteria in the ground part, potentially, whereas a steak will be cooked on all the exposed surfaces.
Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by tomp on Sunday December 08, 2024 @07:24PM (#42361981)
Um, it’s beef. It can be eaten raw. Ever heard of carpaccio?!?

Only two reasons to ever cook beef: (1) taste (2) quality

Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by BenjiWiebe on Monday December 09, 2024 @11:45AM (#42367790)
The exterior of a cut can be seared and then trimmed off to get a safe chunk of raw beef.
Re:UK bans daytime TV ads for cereals, muffins and burgers by ilyin on Monday December 09, 2024 @03:34AM (#42364130)
A whole steak doesn't contain pathogens deep within, only on the surface, which is why ground beef is different situation entirely.