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Re:Protecting Undersea Internet Cables Is a Tech Nightmare by andy_ppp on Saturday December 07, 2024 @12:21PM (#42351179)
Would Russia/China not also suffer quite a bit while the US would hardly notice compared to Europe? It seems not as effective as people think as a way to hurt America? Before long everything would be able to run independently/with large breaks anyway.
Re:Protecting Undersea Internet Cables Is a Tech Nightmare by toast0 on Saturday December 07, 2024 @12:52PM (#42351402)
My impression is there aren't a lot of sites US users go to that are hosted outside the continental US. So in that way, you're right, cable cuts don't hurt that much. (Unless you're in Hawaii or Puerto Rico, or probably Alaska?)

On the other hand, a lot of US based businesses work overseas with connections back to the US. Those businesses would likely be affected if there are major cable cuts, and hurting US businesses hurts the US in general.

I ageee there's ways to make this work, but there would be significant disruption for quite some time as business adapts.

China would likely be fine with fiber cuts. The GFW already limits access to the world at large and encourages local hosting. One of the techniques to discourage use of certain sites is random disruption, which trains the population to look for local sites when foreign sites don't work. Russia is pushing towards a more self-sufficient internet, but I don't think they're as far along, and I haven't heard of as much opaque coerciveness as in China, although I'm sure it's planned.

Re:Protecting Undersea Internet Cables Is a Tech Nightmare by zihotki on Saturday December 07, 2024 @12:40PM (#42351322)
They have their own more or less isolated segments of internet. Last week Russian agency regulating internet did a test in south areas and fully blocked the traffic to outside world so that telegram and VPNs were of no help
Re:Protecting Undersea Internet Cables Is a Tech Nightmare by fragmede on Saturday December 07, 2024 @12:45PM (#42351352)
I wonder what the backbone capacity of Starlink is.
Re:Protecting Undersea Internet Cables Is a Tech Nightmare by edm0nd on Saturday December 07, 2024 @12:50PM (#42351393)
There is no way a Starlink connection has the bandwidth of fiber. It's not backbone material.
Re:Protecting Undersea Internet Cables Is a Tech Nightmare by WillyWonkaJr on Saturday December 07, 2024 @02:15PM (#42352068)
The trillions in daily financial transactions that cross the Atlantic via undersea cable is the main concern.