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Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by harimau777 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:00PM (#42335351)
Whether or not the assassination is justified, I don't think it makes sense to call him a small cog. He's the leader of one of the largest health insurance companies in America.
Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by cadamsau on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:27PM (#42335563)
As much as I hate to point it out, it’s not so simple.

He had a legally enforceable mandate to maximize shareholder value. There’s some wiggle room in how that’s accomplished, but not as much as it seems from the outside.

That does make him, much as I hate to say it, a small cog.

Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by mingus88 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:46PM (#42335723)
It’s funny to me that so often on HN we have discussions about making ethical choices in who we work for and which projects we contribute to, yet the sentiment on this CEO is honestly the most sympathetic I have seen in any comment section

He chose to take the role. He profited from it massively and did more to perpetuate it than any other single individual at the company.

If we were talking about a developer who was writing software for drone bombs wiping out families, yeah maybe that’s a cog. But still there would be no shortage of judgement on that choice of profession

It’s plainly obvious that insurance companies are not good faith actors working to help people. They lobbied for this system, they are the beneficiaries of it, and they are reaping what they’ve sown

Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by cocacola1 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:15PM (#42335895)
But from the assassins point of view, the system is abstract (therefore unshootable) while Brian Thompson was a man (therefore shootable).
Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by davidcbc on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:41PM (#42335683)
Wow, it really is a shame he was forced into this job and had no agency.
Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by cadamsau on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:13PM (#42335891)
Nature abhors a vacuum. If not this dude, would’ve been someone else.
Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by revscat on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:36PM (#42335649)
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Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by cadamsau on Thursday December 05, 2024 @10:21PM (#42335935)
Justice is subjective. What is a crime is subjective.

Hence we have laws - an eternal, never perfect project to find an agreed definition of justice.

Abandoning centuries of precedent of law happens in some places from time to time and they’re not places you’d live by choice.

Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by sundaeofshock on Friday December 06, 2024 @06:11AM (#42338660)
There is no legal mandate to maximize shareholder value. That’s just an excuse used to justify sociopathic behavior.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shareholder-value.asp

Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by throw0101d on Friday December 06, 2024 @07:46AM (#42339311)
> He had a legally enforceable mandate to maximize shareholder value.

[citation needed]

There is no legal basis for this:

* https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2012/06/26/the-shareholder-v...

* https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/09/09/how-t...

* https://evonomics.com/maximizing-shareholder-value-dumbest-i...

It is simply one view that just happened to become popular during the Reagan years and has continued on:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman_doctrine

And while we're at it, shareholders are not the owners of a corporation:

* https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2021/12/who-actually-own...

Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:28PM (#42335574)
Literally one of the biggest cogs in this machine.
Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by smitty1e on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:37PM (#42335660)
What assassination would be "justified"?

This tragedy in the same city that could potentially throw the book at a Daniel Penny...

Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by cocacola1 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @09:43PM (#42335700)
> What assassination would be "justified"?

I think it depends where ones sympathies lay.

Re:Assassination Is a Leaky Abstraction by smitty1e on Friday December 06, 2024 @09:16PM (#42346710)
Assassination assumes some premeditation.

I can at least grasp killing in some sort of immediate self-defense situation.

However, assassination seems a slippery slope to some anarchy that is unlikely to please anyone this side of Hell.