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Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @01:27PM (#42320401)
> And are they there ... illegally? Or legally?

Not relevant to the political question. The point is there is anger at the number of migrants European politicians let in.

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by oezi on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @01:46PM (#42320586)
This is part of the illusion that it is as if our politicians let anybody in. Not a single politician would welcome even one more asylum seeker.

The immigrants by large are coming from the worst imaginable conditions and fighting their way into Fortress Europe. It is the failure of our societies to help the countries like Syria, Afghanistan, etc to be liveable. We are paying the price for this failure.

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @01:51PM (#42320640)
> Not a single politician would welcome even one more asylum seeker

There were absolutely pro-migration politicians, e.g. Merkel.

> immigrants by large are coming from the worst imaginable conditions and fighting their way into Fortress Europe

Europe continues to have generous refugee obligations, protections and benefits. There also isn’t a robust deportation regime, in part because there isn’t anywhere to legally deport them to. That’s probably what these voters take offence to. (I unfortunately don’t see any non-radical solutions.)

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by aguaviva on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @01:32PM (#42320440)
The concern is the distorted and manipulative rhetoric.

Which in turn further drives and exploits the anger.

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @01:43PM (#42320557)
> the concern is the distorted and manipulative rhetoric

That’s a concern. The working poor’s concern is the labor competition from one side and welfare competition from the other.

Re:Why America's economy is soaring ahead of its rivals by youngtaff on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:35PM (#42321155)
Well if the US and UK hadn’t invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, and fermented civil war in countries like Libya and Syria maybe we’d have a lot less

Of course Russia and China aren’t innocent when it comes to Syria and large parts of Africa