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Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by beAbU on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @02:09PM (#42309991)
They are probably held back by same reason thats preventing AMD and nVidia from doing it either.
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by bryanlarsen on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @02:20PM (#42310115)
The reason is AMD and Nvidia don't is that they don't want to cannibalize their high end AI market. Intel doesn't have a high end AI market to protect.
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by fweimer on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @03:47PM (#42311183)
There are products like this one: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/232592/...

As far as I understand it, it gives you 64 GiB of HBM per socket.

Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by knowitnone on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @07:44PM (#42313396)
that's a CPU. We are talking about GPUs here for highly parallel matrix multiplication problems. 2 different beasts.
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by fweimer on Friday December 06, 2024 @04:09PM (#42344471)
This CPU is a bit of a hybrid because it as integrated matrix multiplication accelerators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Matrix_Extensions
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by treprinum on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @02:16PM (#42310078)
NVidia and AMD make $$$ on datacenter GPUs so it makes sense they don't want to discount their own high-end. Intel has nothing there so they can happily go for commodization of AI hardware like what Meta did when releasing LLaMA to the wild.
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by beAbU on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @03:35PM (#42311037)
Is nVidia or AmD offering 128gb cards in any configuration?
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by latchkey on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @04:08PM (#42311463)
They aren't "cards" but MI300x has 192GB and MI325x has 256GB.
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by phkahler on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @05:02PM (#42312060)
You can run an AMD APU with 128GB of shared RAM.
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by genewitch on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @07:33PM (#42313328)
you can do that with nvidia too but it takes you from 6tok/s to 6s/token or worse (not even exaggerating)
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by treprinum on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @05:29PM (#42312309)
It's too slow and not very compatible. Most BIOSes also don't allow sharing that much memory with GPU (max like 16GB).
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by ryao on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @05:46AM (#42316277)
Isn’t that setting just a historical thing annd ann integrated GPU is able to access any system memory that is mapped by the IOMMU? I assume this is how it works for people using the NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin 64GB Developer Kit to do inference. I do not know why it would be different for AMD APUs.
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by treprinum on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @06:54AM (#42316609)
I remember somebody complaining about it on reddit, unable to overcome some BIOS limitation on an AMD G processor. Even on M3 Max one had to issue a special command to enable GPU to access more memory.
Re:Intel announces Arc B-series "Battlemage" discrete graphi... by ryao on Wednesday December 04, 2024 @02:07PM (#42320829)
The command on the M3 Max is a sysctl command to adjust an operating system enforced limit. That is different than the aperture setting in the bios. The limitation on AMD is more interesting and more relevant.