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Re:What happens if we remove 50 percent of Llama? by bravura on Monday December 02, 2024 @11:09AM (#42297545)
I seem to recall that there a recent theory paper that got a best paper award, but can't find it.

If I remember correctly, their counter-intuitive result was that big overparameterized models could learn more efficiently, and were less likely to get trapped in poor regions of the optimization space.

[This is also similar to how introducing multimodal training gives an escape hatch to get out of tricky regions.]

So with this hand-wavey argument, it might be the case that two-phase training is needed: A large overcomplete pretraining focused on assimilating all the knowledge, and a second that makes it compact. Other, that there is a hyperparameter that controls overcompleteness vs compactness and you adjust it over training.

Re:What happens if we remove 50 percent of Llama? by DHRicoF on Monday December 02, 2024 @11:27AM (#42297725)
I don't see that contuer-intuitive at all. If you have a barrier in your cost function in 1d model you have to cross over it no matter what. In 2d it could be only a mount that you can go around. More dimensions mean more ways to go around.
Re:What happens if we remove 50 percent of Llama? by fasa99 on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @03:40PM (#42311104)
This is also how the human brain works. A young babby will have something more similar to a fully connected network. Versus a Biden type elderly brain will be more of a sparse minimally connected feed forward net. The question is (1) can this be adjusted dynamically in silico and (2) if we succeed in that, does fine-tuning still work?
Re:What happens if we remove 50 percent of Llama? by scotty79 on Thursday December 05, 2024 @03:13PM (#42332215)
You don't have to compare to old age. Even 10 year old child has its brain pruned immensely when compared to its babyself.
Re:What happens if we remove 50 percent of Llama? by Scene_Cast2 on Monday December 02, 2024 @11:19AM (#42297650)
The lottery ticket hypothesis paper from 2018?
Re:What happens if we remove 50 percent of Llama? by danielmarkbruce on Monday December 02, 2024 @01:47PM (#42299059)
Seems this way. Gigantic model, hit the jackpot, prune the nonsense. It doesn't seem like smaller models are enough tickets.
Re:What happens if we remove 50 percent of Llama? by furrypony on Monday December 02, 2024 @06:19PM (#42301440)
"Train large, then compress"
Re:What happens if we remove 50 percent of Llama? by fennecbutt on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @07:40AM (#42305513)
I guess we can think of it like one giant funnel; it gets narrower as it goes down.

Vs trying to fill something with just a narrow tube, you spill most of what you put in.