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Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po... by jghn on Friday November 29, 2024 @11:59AM (#42275163)
As someone who has been in that situation, it's better than "your performance is shit, you're fired". In my case a large part of the problem was that I was not picking up on what should have been obvious cues. This provided a needed wake up call, and prompted me to improve.
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Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po... by _DeadFred_ on Friday November 29, 2024 @02:16PM (#42276251)
So poor management. A manager's job is to provide their reports the tools they need to do their job, and key to that is not 'obvious cues' but explicitly stated expectations. Basically the manager didn't manage and substituted a PIP for what they should have been doing all along.
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Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po... by ambicapter on Friday November 29, 2024 @02:18PM (#42276273)
You're really absolving the employee from any possible blame here. Sometimes people ignore blinking warning lights until they get a wake-up call.
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Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po... by jghn on Friday November 29, 2024 @02:51PM (#42276553)
I get what you're saying. But as the person directly involved, and as someone who has managed people over the years since, believe me when I say that the fault was my own.
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Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po... by BeetleB on Friday November 29, 2024 @02:23PM (#42276314)
> that I was not picking up on what should have been obvious cues.

Performance feedback should not come in the form of cues. If it does, it is poor management.

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Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po... by SketchySeaBeast on Friday November 29, 2024 @02:40PM (#42276462)
"To stay off the P-I-P you must answer me these riddles three."
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Re:The Most Hated Way of Firing Someone, the PIP, Is More Po... by grahamj on Friday November 29, 2024 @04:41PM (#42277360)
What is your favourite colour?
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