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Re:A Career Ending Mistake by mjr00 on Sunday November 24, 2024 @12:30PM (#42229038)
> I refuse to believe that there are people whose purpose in life is to be be a manager/VP, and, if they are, they might as well be walking corpses for all I know.

You could say the same thing about ICs though -- "I refuse to believe there are people whose purpose in life is to spend 5 days a week for 3 years building an enterprise line-of-business app to automate an obscure legacy business process that will be used by 10 people in total, and all 10 of those people will complain about the new app and wish they could go back to doing things the old way"

Re:A Career Ending Mistake by ponector on Sunday November 24, 2024 @12:40PM (#42229109)
And as VP you can make a ton of money and spend it wisely, make a difference to your extended family or even a community you live.

That is a real meaning and sense of purpose for your earned money!

Re:A Career Ending Mistake by paganel on Sunday November 24, 2024 @12:56PM (#42229217)
The very fact of calling "computer programmers" as "ICs" is part of this syndrome, I'm not sure exactly when it started showing up, I'd say it was popularised by FAANGs, so maybe 2015-2016-ish?
Re:A Career Ending Mistake by mjr00 on Sunday November 24, 2024 @01:22PM (#42229398)
ICs aren't just computer programmers, they're designers, sales, marketing, customer support, etc. It's just an easier term for people who aren't managers than "not a manager".
Re:A Career Ending Mistake by Ancalagon on Sunday November 24, 2024 @01:06PM (#42229283)
Is IC offensive? I’ve never considered it to be. “Resources”, on the other hand, feels very offensive.
Re:A Career Ending Mistake by frmersdog on Sunday November 24, 2024 @01:11PM (#42229318)
Well, taken at face value, it is a bit of an oxymoron. To contribute is to be part of a group; by definition, a contributor can't be wholly independent, because they're adding to a corpus, not producing it by themselves.
Re:A Career Ending Mistake by dullcrisp on Sunday November 24, 2024 @02:51PM (#42229984)
Oh, I take it the other way. To me it implies that management doesn’t contribute anything on their own, which is kind of true but also kind of a funny phrasing.
Re:A Career Ending Mistake by reshlo on Sunday November 24, 2024 @02:15PM (#42229710)
It stands for Individual Contributor, not Independent Contributor.
Re:A Career Ending Mistake by xboxnolifes on Sunday November 24, 2024 @02:30PM (#42229826)
I don't read it negatively, but to play devil's advocate here... Managers are also individuals who are contributing to the group corpus. They just do it by interfacing with people instead of code.

Though, that's just semantics on the naming. IC just means not having direct reports.

Re:A Career Ending Mistake by cudgy on Sunday November 24, 2024 @03:33PM (#42230295)
True. Who is not an individual contributor? I find the term meaningless.
Re:A Career Ending Mistake by sokoloff on Sunday November 24, 2024 @01:01PM (#42229248)
I've heard the term (or "individual contributor") since at least the first dotcom boom in the late 90s.
Re:A Career Ending Mistake by bitwize on Sunday November 24, 2024 @02:17PM (#42229715)
It's been in use in engineering for decades now. My father was familiar with the term in his career, and he's pre-boomer.