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Re:Weight-loss drug found to shrink heart muscle in mice, hu... by s1artibartfast on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:28AM (#42205238)
Carbs is also colloquialism for calorie dense grains and cereals. Broccoli is like 5% carbs by mass. Bread is 50% carbs by mass. It is a hell of a lot easier to overconsume the latter, spike your insulin, and get into a cycle of cravings.

There is no boogie man trying to scare people away from broccoli.

Re:Weight-loss drug found to shrink heart muscle in mice, hu... by consteval on Thursday November 21, 2024 @12:16PM (#42206429)
> There is no boogie man trying to scare people away from broccoli

I disagree, everyone I know who has been on a keto dietic consumes little to no fruits or fiber. Honestly, I'm not sure how they use the bathroom successfully with such little fiber ingestion.

Re:Weight-loss drug found to shrink heart muscle in mice, hu... by bityard on Thursday November 21, 2024 @12:49PM (#42206764)
I ate only keto for years and I'm getting back to it now so I have some experience to speak of.

You are correct, fruit is mostly sugar so no fruits. Some keto adherents allow the occasional handful of berries, but I found that just made me unreasonably hungry later on. Not everyone has this reaction, though.

There is plenty of fiber in above-ground vegetables. And even if there wasn't, it's not like eating only meat would kill you, humans evolved on the plains and/or jungles of Africa where meat was almost all that was easily available.

Re:Weight-loss drug found to shrink heart muscle in mice, hu... by s1artibartfast on Thursday November 21, 2024 @12:54PM (#42206808)
If you are talking very specifically about a ketogenic diet, then fruits actually do have too many carbs to maintain ketosis. In that case, it isn't some irrational fear, but reality.

Re fiber, A significant portion of the population (maybe a majority) doesn't need much fiber to use the bathroom. It seems like this need is a common situation that people assume is a universal truth. Further, fiber can lead to constipation for many people.

Re:Weight-loss drug found to shrink heart muscle in mice, hu... by cthalupa on Thursday November 21, 2024 @02:11PM (#42207567)
Fruits, yes, because it will kick you out of ketosis. Fiber, every keto adherent I knew would eat fiber in reasonably large quantities because keto often causes constipation, and a lot of the substitutes for things with "regular" carbs were high in fiber.
Re:Weight-loss drug found to shrink heart muscle in mice, hu... by xenonite on Monday November 25, 2024 @05:36PM (#42240852)
Well the answer to that is to eat more fat.