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Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by StefanBatory on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:17AM (#42205116)
Netanyahu I'm not surprised, but Gallant?

EDIT: Asking genuinely on Gallant all I know is he was minister of defence and had a felling out with Netanyahu.

Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by newspaper1 on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:40AM (#42205414)
Gallant's position is that there are no innocent people in Gaza and that they should be starved to death. He's said this many times:

https://x.com/KhalilJeries/status/1853905224320372923

Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by StefanBatory on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:52AM (#42205544)
I didn't know about this before, thanks :|

I thought he was much more of a moderate in Netanyahu cabinet.

Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by newspaper1 on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:57AM (#42205593)
There's a large attempt to pin all of this on Netanyahu and his closest cabinet but what he's saying is pretty much supported by nearly all of Israeli society down to individual citizens. I encourage everyone to find people who live in Israel on X and translate their tweets so they can see for themselves.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by SauciestGNU on Thursday November 21, 2024 @12:20PM (#42206467)
It's utterly appalling, and the main reason I tend to think the end of apartheid in Israel will look substantially different than the end of apartheid in South Africa.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by griomnib on Thursday November 21, 2024 @12:31PM (#42206585)
He is a moderate; which tells you all you need to know about contemporary Israel politics and ethical standards.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by tdeck on Thursday November 21, 2024 @12:34PM (#42206609)
Liberal Zionists like to pretend Gallant was the "moderate one" but in reality there is essentially no moderate in current Israeli society, there is only the secular far right and the messianic further right. The two differ only in small derails of their preferred strategy when using the military to ethnically cleanse Gaza. There is no significant coalition that recognizes basic human rights for Palestinians.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by edanm on Thursday November 21, 2024 @05:21PM (#42209294)
He is a member of Netanyahu's party, which is a right-wing party (though not far-right in terms of Israeli politics).

He is certainly not a moderate, but he is far more trusted than Netanyahu and is considered a moderating and opposing influence on him by many people. Mostly representing the interested of the defence establishment, as opposed to purely political interests (or, if you ask me, as opposed to Netanyahu's only real interest, which is himself).

Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by dekelpilli on Thursday November 21, 2024 @09:25PM (#42210627)
Just a note that the translation in that video is slightly incorrect - he mentions Gaza City, not the Gaza strip.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by shihab on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:37AM (#42205378)
"Defense minister [Gallant] announces ‘complete siege’ of Gaza: No power, food or fuel". [1]

[1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-ministe...

Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by StefanBatory on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:51AM (#42205536)
Thanks for the link, I didn't know that it was he who announced that. Thank you!
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by jrochkind1 on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:27AM (#42205227)
Being the minister of defense gives you culpability for the military actions the ICC has decided are war crimes, I'd think? But I am not an expert in international law, just don't find it surprising.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by sofixa on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:35AM (#42205354)
Yep, commanders are responsible for the actions undertaken by their troops.

It's called Command responsibility or sometimes the Yamashita principle/doctrine, after a Japanese general who was executed for horrific crimes committed by troops not even under his command, but in his area of responsibility (they were naval troops in the Philippines, he was commander of the Philippines, the navy and the army hated each other; he pulled out of Manilla in order to wage war in favourable terrain, the naval infantry commander refused to follow him and fought a brutal urban battle that destroyed the city, and on purpose killed more than a hundred thousand civilians).

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Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by sofixa on Thursday November 21, 2024 @05:58PM (#42209562)
Most just ordered horrific atrocities, their men to die, and then killed themselves.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by bawolff on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:26AM (#42205218)
He's the minister of defense (not anymore but was at the time). If the allegations are true, then as minister of defense he probably ordered the things in question (or failed to stop them)
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by StefanBatory on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:34AM (#42205336)
Okay, failing to stop them is a fair point I haven't considered - thanks.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by bawolff on Friday November 22, 2024 @01:10PM (#42216063)
That said, it seems he is mostly accused of direct criminal liability not superior liability (failing to prevent/punish)
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by runarberg on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:39AM (#42205399)
As I understand it, he was the mastermind behind the policy of starvation and hindering of aid into Gaza. There is a famous video of him promising such in October 2023. He was also the defense minister in a time when several hospitals were targeted and damaged, so it is not hard to see the responsibility of this policy falling on him.
Re:ICC issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and ... by adhamsalama on Thursday November 21, 2024 @10:33AM (#42205309)
You're not surprised that the prime minister is accused of war crimes, but surprised the minister of defense is?