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Re:Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times m... by jacknews on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @08:06PM (#42199962)
"I'd first reject the use of the term "red line" entirely"

No doubt, but the fact is the US told Ukraine they couldn't use ATACMS to target Russia, and now, they can.

And it really is not just another incremental change. Previous red-lines involved what weapons could be deployed within Ukraine, consistent with a 'proxy theater of war'.

This concerns attacks on Russia itself, by Ukraine, but if we're honest, proxy the US, and is qualitatively different.

"I've closely followed the situation in Ukraine since Euromaidan." Then you must recognize that this is not just routine. Unless you're a boiling frog, who also don't pay attention to the news cycle, which is currently full of fearmongering.

Re:Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times m... by ceejayoz on Thursday November 21, 2024 @06:24AM (#42203182)
I tell my kids they can’t play on their phones yet. They have homework to do.

It would be silly to claim, that evening, that I violated my own red line by letting them have phone time after dinner.

You continue to mix up “not now” and “not ever”.

Re:Yi Peng 3 crossed both cables C-Lion 1 and BSC at times m... by jacknews on Thursday November 21, 2024 @09:06PM (#42210524)
But they didn't say you can't play on your phones yet.

They said you may not use phones for social media. At all.

And then changed their mind.